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  1. Mary Maki says:

    Can they get DNA off her clothes the sheriff said he kept?

  2. LakeLife says:

    This is so sad!
    Not one comment on here from family or friends of this poor man!
    Praying this gets solved!

  3. LakeLife says:

    I wonder when they grabbed her by her hair, did she grab him by his arm or claw at him at all?
    Did she get any DNA from him?
    Was this someone she worked with who was jealous that she was going well?
    Praying for justice!

  4. LakeLife says:

    It’s obvious to me that his sister stabbed him to death.
    If the family isn’t going to come forward & they are going to cover it up or not speak about it then nothing is going to be resolved.
    Praying the killer is brought to justice & the family is strong enough to come forward!

  5. LakeLife says:

    They should test the DNA of these two children.
    If they match then it had to be someone who had access to the shredder at the facility & could access it without anyone really seeing them.
    What kind of evil monster would out a baby through a shredder?!
    I hope they catch this evil person one day!
    I pray they do!!

  6. LakeLife says:

    Praying this gets solved!
    He was just walking down the street!!

  7. Jean says:

    The Des Moines Register reported in Feb. 2021 that foul play was not suspected. I can say as a resident of Franklin County that Ethan was brought hime after being identified and his family quietly interred his remains and not a peep has been heard since. I think he was either high or drunk or both and accidentally drove into the water and everyone is too ashamed to admit it.

  8. Dan 24:00 says:

    Try OR plates 035 GGY

  9. Michael David Rogers says:

    What happened to Mr. BODY? EVIDENTLY YOU WERE A BEDWETTER & YOUR MOMMY TOLD DADDY, DADDY SHOULD HAVE STUCK THAT PSYCHO TOUNGE OF YOURS UP YOUR LONELY ASS!!

  10. Glenda Gottstine says:

    I have seen Johnny’s photo so many time and now to know the circumstances, I’m very interested in him being found.
    Please do not say hurtful things about his mom. No one can imagine what she’s been through unless you were in her shoes.
    For her sake, I will pray for answers.

    • Truth says:

      Noreen has viciously and falsely accused people of kidnapping Johnny just because they made her mad. That includes her ex, the police chief, a journalist, and even a private eye who all tried to help find Johnny. Sorry, but her victim card is wearing thin after all the crazy nastiness she has shown to others.

  11. Kelly S. says:

    Any way these could be the work of Ted Bundy? His victims were often around college campuses.

  12. Jan Farley says:

    This case should be investigated…. ! It’s a cover up for sure!

  13. RIP Kimmie my sister Kim I miss you soo much Happy bday in heaven today.Tell Mom,Dad,Steven,Michael,and little Larry the second we miss you guys every second! Love your sister,Terrie(nickname) I wish you would have met your niece Natalia,and my husband Monte I love you 😘 Love Always and forever your sister Teresa

  14. LakeLife says:

    It’s clearly the wife. He caught her naked in bed with the guy & was shot & killed.
    Probably by the guy but she clearly wasn’t “scared” of him because she was seen talking to him in that shirt the police found in her apartment.
    She was ALL about that money when he died too so clearly it was all about the money & being with another guy for her.

  15. Sherri Harvell says:

    He was given 10+5 for rape and murder and he’ll probably only serve part of it,why? they had him cold,DNA last person with her,I’m so sickened,a habitual criminal with very little job history, just watch,he will kill someone else,her little girl has no mother.

  16. Outlandish D'amour says:

    The FBI and my local PD have been given all the info placed on this site and more. WH.gov has been contacted as well. Cybercrimes?

  17. Michael David Rogers says:

    Mr.Body,I’ve turned your info over to the local police and the Iowa cold case folks. I’m hoping your tracked down aand prosecuted, you will be caught, your actions are psychopathic and will be looked @. You are traceable, have a great day, and if I were you, better lawyer up, your going to need one. We don’t say this BULLSHIT here in the great state of Texas, ol and the FBI is informed as well

  18. seth says:

    you should contact adventures with purpose for the missing people they could help you search the rivers

  19. LakeLife says:

    Two of the perpetrators died, where is the third one?
    We’re is daily??
    Is he still alive?!

  20. L says:

    This whole situation sounds sooo shady!
    It sounds like a cover up.
    This poor girl was kidnapped & possibly raped.
    Then they murdered her by beating her to death, then claimed she “died” in a random car accident…that never happened.
    THEN her parents who were trying to get justice for their daughter end up “mysteriously” dead in a fire, however no one can explain how the fire got started.

  21. LakeLife says:

    Praying this gets solved.
    He was just trying to work for his family & provide & his life is cut short for what?!
    What did they even get?!
    God will judge them.

  22. LakeLife says:

    He didn’t do anything to anyone & still someone must have thought there was money in that apartment to be breaking in left & right.
    I pray that the murderer is caught & if he isn’t punished in this life time he will be in the next!

  23. LakeLife says:

    It doesn’t seem that there’s a lot of info on this case.
    It breaks my heart when it doesn’t list family.
    My heart goes out to this man.
    I feel like he was lone in the world.
    I wonder if he was an orphan.
    Praying they solve this one!

  24. LakeLife says:

    Praying they catch the person or persons who did this!
    I think the person or people who did this prepared for it since they got a rug & other items to try to conceal the body.

  25. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice for this poor women!
    They have DNA so why not test it?!!

  26. LakeLife says:

    Was the baby a boy or a girl?
    They can get a sample & use DNA to find out what happened.
    This poor little baby deserves justice & to just leave a baby is SICK.

  27. LakeLife says:

    I think it was someone from the VA!
    Someone who knew his nephew.
    He talked to people about how much money he had & they tracked him down & killed him.
    So sad!
    Praying for justice!

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      That begs the question of where did the phone call come from. Did Amos have a phone, and the offender wanted Amos to be found. However, we hear nothing was missing, and then the DCI suggests that robbery might have been a motive.

  28. LakeLife says:

    It was obviously him if they saw him leave her house RIGHT before the fire… the jury got it wrong.
    So sad!
    I wonder if he is still alive today.

  29. LakeLife says:

    Praying!

  30. LakeLife says:

    Praying to justice!

  31. LakeLife says:

    Praying they can arrest the man who did this!!
    Sick & evil to molest a child!!

  32. LakeLife says:

    Praying to justice!

  33. LakeLife says:

    Penny, praying with you!
    What an evil person!!

  34. LakeLife says:

    Maybe it was someone or a group of people that asked for e drink of water just to get into his house?
    Maybe that’s why he was killed in the kitchen?

  35. ashley says:

    this is fredricks sister ashley we are all worried sick about him and would like help to find him people lets all work together to find out stuff and if anyone knows anything please come forward with imfortmation i would like to know what happend and we need closer we arent asking for much

  36. Michael David Rogers says:

    Please get help , your humor is not needed on here. Maybe your the guilty one or have a guilty conscience???

  37. Linda Rivers says:

    Reading questions about how the father of Patricia Scott could have even been aware of Donna Sue while he was in town for only a week. My grandparents lived a couple of blocks from where this all happened and my dad and all of his siblings grew up in the neighborhood. Very strong Catholic community at St. Bonifice. Wouldn’t doubt that he could have attended church with the family while in town, possibly to find a small child, and saw her there. It would not have taken much to locate the family and scope out the house.

    • Dakota Kenney says:

      That is good information. I’m going to see if I can’t find any records of members at that time.

  38. Michael David Rogers says:

    If it was your biological Father you would take more seriously, I disagree with your comments.

  39. Dean Rhodes says:

    I have since looked at a bigger computer and my tablet has better views then the desk top. I hope they don’t brush this off because their not seeing it!

  40. Dean Rhodes says:

    After watching some of the adventures with a purpose, one show talked about a google maps find in Florida of a car in the water. Since I’ve heard of this story years ago sticking in my head I researched for any updates on Dale being found. Not not able to sleep I played around on google maps and looked up and down the river banks. I’ve boated that river for years and know some basics of the river flows. I spotted a red color. Spot on the screen up river from the Iowa side boat ramp but down street from the big Sioux inlet. I called in to the phone number listed and gave them the latitude and longitude numbers. The lady and I talked over the location but the views are tough to see and I don’t know if she was seeing what I saw. I took a photo of the better shot that I saw , but she didn’t seem to want to see it or have me send it to her, but I hope I’m wrong. I will share it with other authorities when I’m back home from the holidays and try a look on a better computer then my tablet!

  41. Andrew says:

    First i want to send my condolences to Micalla and her family along with Adam. Have they found out where the bullet came from exactly? I know it’s says more then likely someone shooting or hunting but this case kind of remains me of a case i saw the other day on unsolved mysteries about a woman who was shot but survived on a rural road in Connecticut in the late 1980s i know chances are slim but is it possible it could’ve been the same man? https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Brayman_Road_Attacker

  42. Dakota Kenney says:

    Basing information off of previous comments, a sibling of one of the people mentioned has a history of lascivious acts on children. Using old newspaper articles, I found at least 5 charges brought against him. Obviously just inferring here, but that behavior was learned somewhere.

  43. No Name says:

    Is it true that the those brother lived in Dubuque at the time? Maybe West 5th St?

  44. Lynea Cooper says:

    Miss you little brother. We will one day meet again. Rest in peace. Lynea

  45. T. Sherman says:

    If the murders were related to their sexual relationship, Pietism would have been examined and the hardcore Pietists would have been questioned and investigated. This could explain the beating about the head and face for their thought processes not fitting the self-righteous killer.

  46. Ken Westin says:

    How did they discover who killed Kaiden? Did Ms. Michael turn herself in or did they use cell phone records to find out who was using their phone at that time and place?

  47. Pat says:

    Even though this is a 59 year old case, consider that a 65 year old case was solved in 2021 through DNA technique. In 1956, Kenneth Gould murdered and raped Patricia Kalitzke. Gould, who was never considered during the murder investigation, died in 2007, and was cremated. However, his children volunteered DNA, and using a single sperm cell and genetic genealogy, the connection was made to Gould.

    In the case of Ramona Jean Cox, the following forensic evidence was gathered: 1) multiple hairs left by the murderer at the crime scene; 2) a t-shirt left by the murderer at the crime scene; 3) skin matter taken from under Ramona’s fingernails; 4) whatever biological material was gathered by rape examination. And, even if the DMPD lost the evidence inadvertently, the FBI may still have the hair and analysis work that they did.

  48. Pat says:

    I had to stop at Iowa Methodist Medical Center today, and after leaving, I drove over and parked in the east side parking of the Hoyt Sherman place. I walked from 680 15th Street down to the location where the 15th Street sidewalk met the Woodland sidewalk, back in 1962. From that location, I stepped off across Woodland, on a diagonal to where I was immediately in front of the location where 1526 Woodland stood back in 1962. Fifty steps, and figuring each step was an average of 3 feet, calculates to 150 feet. It was a shorter distance than I had remembered. I walked between 1530 Woodland, which still exists, and the west end of the apartment building next to it on the east. This is the pathway the murderer of Ramona Cox took that night back on April 29, 1962. The concrete walkway is no longer there, but a stone wall separates the properties. The landscaping behind is totally different. I walked east in what had been the alley to 15th Street, and over to the corner of 14th Street Place, where the grocery store had been in 1962. The whole route was dramatically shorter than what existed in my memory.

  49. Gramma says:

    Does seven bridges have a target shooting area? If so, gun enthusiasts should be looked at, in addition to hunters

  50. Denielle Kelly says:

    This story was an episode on The Swords and Scales Podcast. The story has always haunted my heart and head. Child Sex Trafficking is REAL and PROTECTED by the detail oriented system that runs this WORLD WIDE OPERATION. Usually involving and operated by people with power, money and fetishes. While being protected by fellow members in all areas applying to life. Ex: Police officers, Teachers, Lawyers, Government Employees, Child Protection Services, Hospitals, Doctors , Nurses, Dentist, Daycares, Nurse Practitioners, Non Profit Groups, Coaches, Truck Drivers, Domestic Violence Protection Shelters, Actors, Singers, Pilots, Captains, Army, Politicians and many other positions that are automatically respected and trusted by us Americans because that’s what we where raised to believe and never doubt. In this episode Eugenes mother repeatedly states that the detective and police officer’s didn’t make her feel heard, respected, taken seriously and was being questioned more then being answered. So much that she hired a Private Investigator. She continued her own hunt for answers even when she was continually shut down or even mocked by her possible theories, fears and overall mother’s intuition. She also states that after months/years of the investigation she had her own doubts and suspicions about Eugene’s father involvement and how the entire investigation was handled and cared for. The end of the podcast we learn that all of his mothers efforts finally paid off in a way she could never imagine. It was Eugene either going to see her or contacted her explaining that she had to stop looking for him. That he was involved in this huge operation that he has a certain role with power and that his mothers fight for him was endangering his life with his new “family” members. So much that he told her to please stop so that he would remain safe in his now normal everyday life. So she did what any mother would do to protect her son- she LISTENED and LET HIM GO. I encourage everyone to listen and hear the pain in this moms voice telling her story. Where do you think these boys that pretend to love girls and promise to give them a better life come from? They are kidnapped- trained and purposely chosen for what ever role they will become and then eventually train others to do. It’s very interesting to me that all missing children in Iowa are mainly Caucasians. In Illinois where I was raised it’s mainly African American girls and some boys. In California where I was born it’s mainly Hispanic women or young star eyed teens who believe that they can be made into a movie star model or living in poverty and promised a better life. I can stand rooted and calm saying all this because I believe in my heart this is our worlds BIGGEST problem. Coming from a woman who’s then 3 year-son was sexually abused and coached by his then 12 year old half brother to perform sex acts that I fortunately walked in on while he was having parenting time at his fathers. Also found strange Craigslist ads posted by my sons father that were in code that a lawyer once told me I needed to dig deep into the meaning and it’s hidden codes. Forensic exams, rape kits, intense therapy, orders of protection, court orders, DCFS involvement, a verbal statement made by my son to counselors, doctors, Dcfs, nurses and the detective who was assigned our case. Nobody listened except our therapist, who wanted to do anything she could to have this boy heard and protected- but had to be so careful as to how to have him heard, while having to jump hoops and hurdles to have the system work for him not against him. It’s not enough for a mother to witness it, report it, and then have her son explain in detail in a forensic exam to be told there was NOT ENOUGH evidence. That me constantly coming in 36+ times to report new information, disclosures, and overall fear of her sons safety was focused on more then the alarming fact that a 12 year old boy was sexually abusing and coaching a 3year old boy- While his father was home and present. In the suburbs of Chicago.I keep journals. I write down everything he wants to tell me- 2 years later geared around safety, structure and rebuilding has brought him to new level of realization and a higher state of concern that if what all my son says is true I’m so grateful I was able to listen, believe and react in a way that has given us a fresh, safe healthy start. However has me fearing for his future because this is an organized, detailed, system of checks and balances. If we don’t stand up, raise our voices, talk about what is uncomfortably true and real, and protect ALL CHILDREN’S LIVES! EVERY CHILD’S LIFE is a target for the dark side we live amongst. Hopefully my truth will open doors for others truth. Or the more information we can collect we can unite and fight.

  51. TB says:

    Steve peacock ran me over with a motorcycle when i was 4 years old. He broke both bones in my left leg. He was never charged or held accountable. He said i jumped in fr9nt of the motorcycle. When there is a 4 yr old on a path playing with dolls, you dont speed up! You stop! He Sped up! Somehow im not not dead.

  52. Shawn Harmon says:

    My father Dennis Ross Harmon was the killer of the Delphi girls give me a call at 502-965-3372 Dennis Ross Harmon was his name and my younger son Dylan

  53. Pat says:

    My best theory:
    The man in the living room at 7:30-7:45 pm, dressed like the murderer who fled at 11:00 pm, is the murderer.
    The man is an acquaintance of Cox, or she wouldn’t have let him in.
    He drops by, and promises not to stay long, since it was Sunday night, and the work week would soon begin. She lets him in and they chat briefly.
    He may have gotten aroused.
    He notices the open bedroom window, and plans a return to rape.
    He leaves the apartment before 8:00 pm.
    This accounts for Mrs. Grismore not hearing anyone with Cox, when she went to bed at 8:30 pm.
    This accounts for Cox getting into her pajamas, and curling her hair, since the visitor had left.
    This accounts for Cox not mentioning the man in her telephone talks with Norma Jean Higgins, at 7 pm and 8 pm, since the conversations focused on the dress she was making, and the man was only there briefly.
    He returns about 10:45 pm, in the same clothes he wore earlier.
    He parks his car parallel with or behind any car at 1526, as it is likely there was no parking space available.
    He does not park in the alley, as attention would be drawn to the vehicle, and it could result in an interruption if he was blockading anyone.
    He enters through the open bedroom window.
    He discovers the linoleum knife which Cox had brought into the apartment to use, and left in the bedroom.
    He decides he has to kill her since she could identify him.
    The mayhem begins, and he escapes to the back alley, and drives his car away.
    Because his car was parked close enables a quick getaway.
    This explains why the bloodhounds only track to the alley.

  54. Pat says:

    As my high school friend and I were talking with the clerk in the neighborhood grocery store, I seem to remember the clerk looking out the window behind him, on the east side of the building, and indicating he saw a shirtless man running by, north on 14th Street Place. We could see nothing from the customer side of the counter. The newspaper account on 04/30, indicates the police used bloodhounds for tracking, early Monday morning. Although nothing was reported by the newspaper regarding the results, since the escape route would be only hours old, it would be interesting to know what those bloodhounds detected.

  55. Shannon Hebert says:

    The above article states he was survived by one daughter? He has 3. No evidence to prosecute? Fragments of my father’s skull were found in James Burroughs boot!!! They had plenty of other proof to use to prosecute. I think there is a lot more to his murder.

    • LakeLife says:

      I’m so sorry for your loss!
      It sounds like his murderer has died now.
      God will judge that evil man!

  56. Pat says:

    According to the 05/04/62 Tribune, p. 9, Ramona had moved into 1526 Woodland in February. Thus, she had only lived there for 2 months by the time of the crime. It is likely she had moved from 930 Bancroft on the “near” south side, where the Aug 1961 Des Moines phone book lists her. Unless there had been an in between move. Not likely.

  57. Pat says:

    All times are approximate as reported in the newspaper:

    10:45 pm a woman’s scream is heard from 1526 Woodland;
    11:00 pm a man jumps from the bedroom window at 1526 Woodland;
    11:15 pm the police find Ramona Cox dead in her living room at 1526 Woodland.

    At about 10:55 pm my high school friend and I walk from his apartment at 680 15th to the corner of 15th and Woodland and turn east heading for the grocery store at 14th Street Place and Woodland. We couldn’t have known that across the street and three doors to the west, a murder-rape was taking place. We saw no one out that night except us. By the time we walk east and reach the point where we can see south on 15th Street, we see two guys in a car coming north towards us. They turn onto Woodland heading west and were in a hurry. I’m sure this was Charles R. and his friend who drove him back to 1530 Woodland, after looking for police. Charles enters 1530, and he and Sharen C. and Jackie P. come outside. The women are sitting in his car and Charles is standing next to it when a man jumps out the bedroom window at 1526, and flees south into the back alley and heads east to 15th Street, where he stops running to tuck his shirt in, under a street light, before resuming his escape. My friend and I are in the grocery store buying cigarettes and candy while this is taking place. At about 11:10 pm we see a police car speeding by east to west on Woodland with his light flashing, no siren. At this point we leave the store and walk back to the NW corner of 15th and Woodland. It wasn’t long before there were four squad cars. One of the officers walked over to us and asked what we were doing out at that time of night and we said we had gone to the grocery store. Then he asked us if we had seen any one out and about in the neighborhood, and we told him no. We asked what was going on, and he told us he couldn’t tell us. It was obvious the police were checking out the gray house at 1526 Woodland. We didn’t find out what was going on until the next morning when we saw the DM Register headline: “Woman, 25, Slain in Home”.

  58. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice.
    I wonder who knows she had those bonds on her?

  59. Pat says:

    Apparently, Jackie P. passed away in 2003, and Charles R. in 2018. Two of the three witnesses that saw the murderer jump from the bedroom window at 1526 Woodland, at approximately 11:00 pm on 04/29/1962.

  60. LakeLife says:

    So someone kept him in that barn & hurt him over the course of two days.
    Very sick!
    Praying for justice!!

  61. LakeLife says:

    This is so sad!
    He wrote in blood that the killer was black & older.
    He tried to describe the killer.
    Praying for justice!

  62. I'm staying Anonymous says:

    With a limited amount of information, the only person I saw on the Doe Network that could POSSIBLY be the un-id male is Daniel Jess Goldman. He is from Florida, however, but from the research I did the Mississippi goes through Florida and flows into the Missouri river. Obviously I’m not saying this is the for sure identification, just a POSSIBLE identity. It’s hard to know though with only having his skin tone.

    • Stay Strong! says:

      … and to think all this time I was under impression the Mississippi River flows North-to-South (like all but around 20 in the US) from MN and drains into the Gulf of Mexico, never coming anywhere near FL, and it’s the Missouri River that drains into the Mississippi River…

  63. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice for this poor old women!
    This makes me sick!!
    For no reason at all but just for money!!
    Nothing just evil!

  64. Penny L Lozon says:

    “Schuster said she’d learned Jane Doe wasn’t a match after she’d called NamUs. She said she also called the Waterloo Police Department, who told her they had a police report from September 6, 1983 that her sister had filed,” If Viola filed a police report in Waterloo on Sept 6, wouldn’t that mean she made it back to Iowa?

  65. Hernan Moreno says:

    Find out if Mason City has a Cold Case Unit and try contacting them. Prayers…

  66. anon says:

    A lot of people who were listed as missing on this page have been taken down. What happened to the kid with the surname Nissen?

    • Jody Ewing says:

      Anon, Brian Nissen’s case was removed from both the IDPS’s Missing Person Information Clearinghouse site, and his case also removed from NamUs, which means for whatever reason, they no longer consider him missing. I cull through our Missing page frequently, and when I see they’ve been removed from the other two sites (some don’t even make it to NamUs), then I remove them from ICC’s “Missing” page. A lot of our missing people don’t have personal case summary pages because there’s so little info about them online. The MPIC staff with the state are adding and deleting names from their database every day.

  67. LakeLife says:

    I wonder if it had something to do with local politics too since he was running.
    Maybe someone really thought he was a threat?
    This is so sad!
    Praying this gets solved so the family can finally have peace

  68. LakeLife says:

    I think they need to exhume the body & get better DNA from the bone marrow.
    Also, could they test the fetus as well?
    The leading cause of death for pregnant women is murder & many times it’s the baby’s father who doesn’t want the baby.
    It’s tragic & sick.
    Praying that they find the killer!

  69. Shelly Read says:

    How are government in Fort dodge iowa, can’t solve cases, locking up innocent, it’s a prejudice movement against the dead population!! They to busy taking money, not improving the community…!!! Living in mansion, pushing their authority in the wrong way in Iowa….

  70. Ron Munt says:

    does anyone know the address of wilbur millhouse?? (yes i know hes dead)

    • Roger says:

      Idk exact address but know exactly which one was his first house on the south side of maury past se23rd (I think it’s 23rd) drive by there often

  71. Shelly Read says:

    Angela Marie Altman, was this the lady that lived across the old faraway store, in a white house, her boyfriend/ husband told her he would be right back, she responded yes..!!

    • Shelly Read says:

      Mrs, Altman was alive when her boyfriend/ husband was walking toward the flats. I always wondered what happened to this case.?? He’s fully innocent…!!! I hope they find the real young boy that caused this tragic, a teenager.. ” under age individual “

  72. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice for this man!

  73. Tim says:

    rest in peace lisa

    • Tim says:

      I knew her a little bit when i was 7 and 8 (1976 and 1977).
      she was very nice and good to me and I would never believe she was a prostitute.
      If there was foul play involved then what does that mean with the other two friends named above “Jerri Lee Connelly” and “Patrice Waddell” as far as being related as that is pretty strange.
      they all new each other and within 4 months they all are dead.

      • Tim says:

        after more thinking i first new her at a different house by 12th street where i was even younger and the year was close to 1974

  74. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice!
    Hoping they can still use the DNA & get a conviction!
    Also, it would be very helpful to know who those two men where who left the restaurant around the time she was murdered

  75. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice!
    I can’t imagine coming home to find your husband dead.

  76. LakeLife says:

    It’s so odd that this case ties into the other case with Gary & his wife.
    Praying for justice!

  77. LakeLife says:

    What a senseless & evil thing!
    Why would anyone want to murder an old man?!
    Praying for justice!

  78. Charles Langgin says:

    Why does her dad say she is in Omaha NE

  79. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice!

  80. Melanie Wood says:

    I thought name calling wasn’t tolerated.

  81. Melanie Wood says:

    There’s alot of abuse on this thread that needs to be removed.

  82. Jackie Raymond says:

    What would it take to open up this cold case. They need to go back and look at everything. Use the new equipment. I wish they would look into this. They have forgotten Lynn she needs justice. Very sad. And Kieth is over here enjoying life.
    Can we contact records and get the police report . I would like to get the police report in it.

  83. Melissa Huston says:

    Sorry if this has already been mentioned. Can they run or have they been running cars VIN numbers?

  84. Melanie Wood says:

    Yes. Some of Noreen’s statements seem very far fetched. However the situation and the mental anguish and evil tricks played on her have pushed her over the edge. By no fault of her own. I have great sympathy for her. I can’t imagine the hell she has been througj.

    • George K says:

      I don’t think there’s any evidence that Noreen has been mentally unwell. Farfetched does not equal false, and what Noreen has said about Johnny’s case, as outlandish as it might seem to some people, is logically consistent and does check out. She has frequently explained the multitude of evidence backing up Paul Bonacci’s involvement in her son’s abduction, such as his knowledge of Johnny being photographed prior to the kidnapping, his awareness of a suspicious van being in the neighborhood that morning (which, funnily enough, Faded Out podcast witness Chris Birge inadvertently confirmed while trying to deny it; https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnnyGosch/comments/e948gx/chris_birge_and_the_sighting_of_a_van/ explains this more), and his identification of Sam Soda as a perpetrator when Sam had been suspected by the Gosches for years prior. More information about how much Noreen and Paul Bonacci’s versions of events actually check out can be found here: http://cavdef.org/w/index.php?title=Johnny_Gosch_abduction

      • Greg Caliper says:

        Then why hasn’t Bonacci been arrested. I read somewhere that he is doing well, has children.

        • George K says:

          That’s a question for the West Des Moines police to answer. With the volume of evidence backing up Paul Bonacci’s story, it’s inexcusable that they didn’t even interview him, instead deferring to perjury charges against him that the state of Nebraska *dropped*, and later relying on the recollection of unidentified family members a whole 10 years after the kidnapping to claim he couldn’t have been out-of-state when it happened. The WDM police hopped from excuse to excuse not to speak to Bonacci, as if they could afford to be picky in a case that had been cold for a decade.

          Were Bonacci’s story to finally be taken seriously by LE, though, it is unlikely he would be held as culpable, given his account that he was forced into assisting the kidnapping: both physically at gunpoint and mentally by being a victim of the Franklin ring nearly since birth.

  85. brian Zirtzman says:

    fake news

  86. Melanie Wood says:

    She was aquitted.

  87. Melanie Wood says:

    I don’t see a motive here. Very strange.

  88. matthewratliff65 says:

    they are letting them off agian and the state still wont let me talk to my kids i have had about enough of the shit i need help

  89. Melanie Wood says:

    Yeah. What are they doing to solve this?. DNA?. No mention of the sex or race of this baby. Not much to go on to get the peopke responsible. I’ll never understand going through all of the pregnancy to kill it and dump it. Stupid. They will pay.

  90. Melanie Wood says:

    Big man likes to kill animals. Evil SOB! guilty. Murderer. Takes a big man to shoot someone and animals that will kill you because you have a gun
    You’ll get yours on earth or after big man.

  91. Melanie Wood says:

    I think it was someone she knew. The dog is to be of note. I believe the “This” written was a statement that they were killed because of what they were doing. “This” is why they are dead. I just don’t think it was random. The overkill. Personal. The violence and murder weapon used. Very brutal. Like someone was very angry. It doesn’t appear robbery was a motive. No one chooses an axe or the like for a weapon for a robbery. No forced entry. No one heard anything which I do find strange.

    • Tammy Burkman says:

      I was Rose’s best friend. It could have been someone mad at her, but Roger is the one that was married. So, that in itself meant people , if they knew or found out would have been very angry. His wife’s family was a very strange, some evil bunch. I really think it was either done by the wife’s close family members. Or they paid someone to help. I hope that the DNA that was found can be used to do genealogy. That would bring us to the killer even if they are already deceased. I just need to know who, that will tell why. It has been going on 41 years, we just need the answers!

  92. Melanie Wood says:

    Evidence now. No. I am sure she smothered them. No marks. Looks like SIDS. MSBP wasn’t diagnosed then. Yes there was a mother finally caught after many babies died. They were all considered a genetic problem. But she killed the last one. Adopted. I can’t remember her name.

  93. Melanie Wood says:

    Being a prison was nearby has anyone searched released prisoners.

  94. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Sue, I checked Floyd Cramer and came across a Find-A- Grave entry for him. It basically has the date he died 12/9/1960. It appears the Des Moines Police made no effort on his supposed murder.

    I use that term, since there is no mention that an autopsy was conducted to determine a cause of death for him.

  95. Melanie Wood says:

    This doesn’t fit the Gosch or Martin disappearances. First they were paperboys.Different circumstances. And I don’t believe Marc was the same person. And second they were never found. This guy apparently had no fear of that.

  96. Melanie Wood says:

    Heads up. Don’t trust the mods especially Trish on Webslueths. She spends donations on herself. From former members it is referred to as “Jonestown”. Trish goes to the Casino. She also splits the money with her mod pals.

  97. Melanie Wood says:

    Bundy. No. Bundy was never said or known to be in Iowa. Even at Bundy’s own admissions they would be looking at 3 digit victims in 6 States. Iowa was not one. Oregon, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Vermont and Florida. And none of the “Waverly” would have been on his escape to Florida. I’m really not sure the 3 are connected. Spaced that far A part?. Especially Valerie. I can see the last 2. But once serial killers get started they don’t have a 4 yr lapse. And usually killers kill in the same age range. Valerie was a child. I think it was someone she knew. But who?. Alot of people have motorcycles in cold weather states. The person was smart luring her away from the pool. No witnesses. Around alot of people that would notice anything strange. Perpetrator still alive?. It’s possible. But I think they are not. I also think this person went to prison for something. Just a feeling. So sad. I just turned 1 when she was murdered.

  98. Melanie Wood says:

    Pietro the father died in 2005 same year as the mother. Not the daughter, The victim.

  99. Melanie Wood says:

    With little information there is no hope for identification. Also I would bet they have discarded his remains by now.

  100. Melanie Wood says:

    There really is no information out there on this man. I certainly don’t think it was random. But no mention of any other suspect than the man they couldn’t tie to it. Where do You go from nowhere. To serve in WWII and then come back to be murdered how terrible. This is purely speculation. But for some reason I get the strong feeling it was,an argument over owing money. Friend or acquaintance. I also get the strong feeling this man was a hermit people wouldn’t really notice was gone.

  101. Melanie Wood says:

    So many suspects. I feel she will never get earthly justice. But whoever it was the person is evil beyond words. I find troubling the dog nor parents heard anything. As far as the dog that would lead me to believe it was someone the dog knew. I don’t believe the father had anything to do with it whatsoever. And it was stated he was finally cleared by DNA. That poor man. That made me cry. What this family had to go through. The way the public acted towards them. Shameful. I have seen that house now. Windows painted over. Creepy. It should be burned then leveled.

  102. Melanie Wood says:

    I think the man who got her pregnant murdered her. She told him and he killed her. Whether it was right when she told him or later meeting for an arrangement. People saying she was going somewhere else for an abortion. No. It wasn’t legal anywhere at the time. Alot of people missing or found murdered their cars are often found at airports. To make it appear they went somewhere from the perpetrator. When logs are checked for tickets for their names they never find they actually bought one.

  103. Greg Caliper says:

    I have not yet read or heard a peep from Johnny’s step brother or step sister. Why?

  104. Melanie Wood says:

    I find it very suspicious the ex boyfriend didn’t seem to be suspect. If not him I suspect the guy they found not guilty. But why?. He had the background of violence. And they let him out on day reease and at a hotel. Idiots.

  105. Melanie Wood says:

    Found in the back seat. Not intoxicated. In her driveway. I suspect someone followed her home and blitz attacked her and she was dragged in the back seat to be assaulted. Then killed eventhough no evidence was found to support that it majes sense. And the car set on fire to cover up the crime. It was successful.

  106. Jim says:

    Start with Richard Davis for one I believe I was standing in drive way that day and Richard Davis and two others did something with harry on his property the dorve the car to the shed across the road

    • Mark Milligan says:

      Jim, please reach out to me. I would like to speak with you in reference to this comment.

  107. Leif says:

    Paragraph #6 ends with: “Pegram walked away a free man.” Yet the Des Moines Register reported on 24 May 91 that Pegram was convicted in the death of Maria Schuler. ~ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/35607202/the-des-moines-register/

  108. Anna says:

    Cecil was my best friend when I was in facility in Leon and I’m so pissed off that these people have gotten away with murdering him. All these years. I’ve never even been able to visit his grave idk where it’s at and I’ve moved all over the place. Please contact me annarebeccablack.1986@gmail.com especially if you’re his sister if you want to talk I’m here

  109. Jeff Frost says:

    To the person that is assuming that she went to the concert alone, she was at the concert with my female cousin. I vaguely recall speaking to both of them while at the concert.

  110. Jodi K Shondel says:

    I first hand seen how crystal behaved while at the hospital. How she claimed to not know CPR. It would have been different too say you didn’t do it because you was scared BUT that’s not what she said. Crystal also told my best friend it was ok if we lost dj because “we would have another little dj running around” who says that while your baby’s father is dying???? Crystal may have not killed him but she sure as h*ll didn’t save him. She knows a.lot more then she claims. Best believe I see karma playing out every time I see crystal.

  111. Joseph W Teske says:

    The car was not place in an impound it was placed in a garage where the murderers family member was able to taint the evidence their wass a boot print on the passenger door wonder if they got pics….and a gentlman reported seeing someone getting chaswd nd beat up

  112. Alisia myers says:

    Well 27 year’s ago still unsolved , sickening to me he is still free Scott Macy needs reinvestigated how bout another lie detector , DNA in her nails and hair and DNA all around her body did you test and study all that and the garbage bag found with her hair and salvia in it also finger tear Mark’s on it also , come on forensic technology solve my mother’s murder 🙏

    • Kathy Wallace says:

      Forensics will solve this. The case needs to keep being warmed up and followed and revisited every single year until that murderer is brought to justice . Prayers ❤️

      • Alisia myers says:

        I only can hope and pray Jesus will take the wheel and help the police catch Scott Macy , tweeker out on the east side because he is a meth head .

  113. Kim says:

    This discussion makes me sick to my stomach. I knew Pennye, and I believe she was murdered, not because she was black, but because she may have trusted the wrong guy. she spent her whole high school years being shy, and kept from everything. I remember she said she lived with her Grandma, and wasn’t allowed to wear make up, she would come to school each morning and put lipstick on first thing. I think she was finally enjoying some freedom, and someone took her life, I was at that school, none of ever knew or heard what actually happened to her, and if I did I would most definitely have told someone. I will remember this gal for the few memories I have of her, and not focus on how her life ended. I will always pray she is at peace, and I know someday someone will come forward, until then, I wont listen to anyone try and make her life a rumor of race.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      I was reviewing the cold case murder of Betty Ann Moore (12) of Robbins, Illinois, in my neck of the woods, on June 4, 1986. She was a young black girl, whose mother a nurse’s aid, was in the hospital.

      So,she normally stayed at her foster grandfather’s house. She supposedly did not want to go to school, because of her mother. Also, her father had died a few months before. She did not interact with the other kids in the neighborhood.

      She also wrote a short story for an English class in school. The story was titled “The Case of the Missing Body and Murder”. It was about a fictional rich woman, who everyone wanted dead. The fictional woman was named Betty Ann Moore.

      Betty Ann Moore was found naked and severely beaten close to the Cal-Sag Channel, not far from where she lived. Her foster grandfather assumed she got up and went to school. She was not home when they got up. She was reported missing when she did not return from school. In fact she never made it to school. This somehow sounds similar to Pennye’s case

  114. Audrey E Haverkamp says:

    I remember when the fire that killed the Eberly children happened. I was 10 years old and went to school at New Market Comm. School. My little sister was in kindergarten and the oldest Eberly child, Larry, was in her grade. It was such a tragic fire and affected the whole community. So very awful and sad…

  115. Kaylin J says:

    Where can I get in touch with the family? I’ve written a poem inspired by this case and I’d like to share it with them.

  116. Jeremiah Baustian says:

    The Trail Went Cold just did in episode in March on this case. I guess her daughter has been very active on Reddit and with reaching out to podcasts to garner attention for her mom’s case.

  117. Denise Munoz says:

    I just wanted to say for some reason I was not mentioned. I am his oldest Denise. I truely pray they find who did this . To my sister and brothers.. I love you guys

  118. George Duggan says:

    Does anyone know whether there was any eminent domain actions taken for this parcel of land before the townhouses were built?

  119. Hines says:

    Please follow my Mothers fb page. (Who Killed Jamedia Hines)
    My family and I are seeking answers. Any questions, comments or concerns youmay have, please feel free to contact me personally. We just want justice! Thank you

  120. Excuses excuses says:

    This person is said to be Buried in a field that has lime in it….Southeast of Lakeside the junkyard… everybody in town knows the story including the police
    wonder if a single Bucket of dirt has ever been lifted or what excuse they would have to why not…..

  121. Elizabeth says:

    Has there ever been a book about the murders in Ottumwa?

  122. Anna Sayre says:

    SOMEONE SHOULD LOOK AT JAMES BRIAN CHADWELL

  123. Mike says:

    Look into James Brian Chadwell the II from Lafayette area. He loved the woods and bridges, fishing and was a semi driver. He is now suspect for Delphi murders.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Mike, he sounds like a good candidate. However, investigators would have to be able to place him the area. Also, would he have knowledge of the area. Everyone thinks all they need is DNA. But, it is one piece of the pie

      • Tom Neulieb says:

        A friend gave me this. They sent it to the cops: No response.
        This is regarding the disappearance of Lyric and Elizabeth, the victims of a double homicide in Evansdale, Iowa. I know you have a wealth of information regarding the case, so I will not be redundant. I know you have interviewed “all the usual suspects,” including those named in the Dephi murders, etc. You may have interviewed the gentleman I am addressing here. However, I hope you will revisit your information about him, even though he is deceased, because a lot of evidence points to him.
        Many of my friends and I often engage in conversations about local crimes, cold cases, and unsolved murders. One of my friends is from Evansdale and knew the two missing girls. She spoke of them often. She has a large family in that area and they spend a lot of time in bars, fraternal organization, and so forth. As in all small towns, everyone knows everyone and the girls and their families, and the murders were the topic of conversations for some time in all the places she hung out. They do mingle in the same places as the girl’s families and are personally acquainted with some of the family members, as well as with law enforcement officers. My friend’s ex husband has a number of employees, he once had a public works position in XXXXXXXX and most of her family now works at XXXXXXXX.
        They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. Through the years she has often suggested we take a tour of Evansdale so she could show me Meyer’s Lake, Angel’s Park, and where the girls lived and so forth.
        Some of this is simple speculation, but I hope you understand why I am drawing some inferences that I draw. We always talk about local creeps and crimes and she began the “tour” by pointing out a house where an awful person lived, not the suspect, but inferences could be drawn by some psychologists, sociologists, and criminologists if they are related because they have the same name. Many years ago the man that lived there kidnapped and killed a small child. The whole town was looking for her, yet she was already deceased in his attic. He told the creepy stories about how she “liked sitting on his lap” and that she “wanted him.” “She was really cute,” he told the reporter. “I loved her probably as much as her parents did.”
        The 1974 Courier article goes on to say that R. Fitz, the creepy perp, had actually joked with the child’s father about abducting the girl. “She’s so cute; I’d like to kidnap her,” the article quotes R. Fitz as saying. He was 27, she was 2.
        As XXXXX is telling me this story, she burst into tears. This perpetrator just died in prison and she and her family were discussing his obituary. He was 71, so he had been in prison for approximately 44 years. My friend said that her grown daughter came over and burst into tears and shared that R. Fitz had tried to molest her when she was a child. My friend’s family lived near the Fitz’s and several times he had tried to get her children to come over or go for rides, etc. Her daughter is still very naïve and even now doesn’t grasp the ramifications of some of these acts. Her daughter said R. Fitz attempted to get her to “kiss his …..,” but more alarming, his wife was there and she laughed and said, “Russell, put that thing away” and made some comment that he needed to quit doing that stuff.
        Here is where you may feel I am off track or speculating. I have been unable to find out if my suspect, Chad Fitz is related to Russell Fitz. But in my experience, families may share some behaviors, learned or otherwise. Here are just a couple of charges Chad Fitz has had in the past. If they are related, a lot of this occurs in the same families as a learned behavior. Both are deceased now, but Chad should be considered a suspect anyway. DNA could still be obtained from all involved as well as using genetic genealogy DNA.

        Chad was convicted with:
        LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD)

        KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE – 1978 (FELA)

        To the investigators: I am sure you must know these things, but you should talk to XXXXXX. She showed me where Chad Fitz’s mom or grandma lived, right by Meyer’s Lake. Within yards! That’s where he stayed or lived with his mom or grandmother and the girls rode their bikes right past his house on Gilbert Street and all around there. XXXXX told me about his car being crushed (I found he had a white PU at the time, maybe his, maybe the person’s he lived with, he/they may have others, but this was at least one of them.) So now he leaves that Evansdale house after the murders and moves in with grandma (or mom) AGAIN, now in Readlyn, near the reserve! A straight shot as it were, across the county. The woman he lived with was first in Evansdale, the moves out to Readlyn. The address there is very close to the wildlife area. In my opinion, if you follow criminal profiling, I don’t see he could possibility be eliminated!!! Look at those two charges! Here are bits of my conversations with XXXXX. Just have her take you on a tour and talk with her and her family and keep it confidential. Talk to the car crusher. They said the car/truck stunk when they got it. XXXXX and her relatives know all these people personally and no one ever asked them anything,
        You sent December 7, 2020 to XXXXXXX.
        Chad Fitz has a huge record yet no obit anywhere online… just a short death notice in Waterloo Courier. Died at U of I Hospital? Hardly anything about him. That would be the two house addresses. One is on Gilbert in Evansdale and one on a farm or house in Readlyn. This creep has an old kidnappings charge and a charge with LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD) and KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE – 1978 (FELA). Seems so logical that he could be involved. He loved the outdoors too and spent time right there at the reserve. He has lots of meth charges too. Don’t say anything to anyone except find out what he drove from those people, if it really stunk, why they didn’t call the PD, if they really crushed it, etc. Locals in a bar/club who knew the girls and their families talked about this and never did anything??????? WTH?

        12/7/20, 5:39 PM
        You sent December 7, 2020
        Check this out. “Best address match” on Been Verified is 2568 Independence Ave Evansdale, IA 50707. Dates seen March 2005. Other is “Higher Confidence” 2848 270th St Readlyn, IA 50668
        You sent December 7, 2020
        OMG he lived 16 minutes or 6 miles from the Seven Bridges park SIX MINUTES!!! SIX MILES!

        XXXXXXX sent December 7, 2020
        Also at the time the girls disappeared he lived on Gilbert Drive
        You sent December 7, 2020
        I know, that is what I have been asking you. You said it was his mom’s or grandma’s house. I thought it was the house we drove by right by the lake. I thought you said that was Gilbert Drive in Evansdale. That is why I need that address and if his grandma or mom lived there. Didn’t you say Gilbert in Evansdale? That is the only missing link. That and what kind of vehicle he had, where it went and why.
        You sent December 7, 2020
        What is Rydell? How do you know he bought it there? Where did it end up where you said it smelled?

        XXXXXXX sent December 7, 2020
        Gilbert Drive in Evansdale and it was his mom he lived with. I don’t know what model his car was just that it was at the crushers but someone smelled a rotten odor but it was cleared by fbi
        XXXXX sent December 7, 2020
        He was cleared
        XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020
        Now he is dead

        December 7, 2020
        I know but I am not convinced. Maybe the FBI didn’t have enough information. I see Rydell is a dealer in Waterloo where he got the car. Easy to get VIN, get crusher’s records, date, etc. I am driving to Evansdale to get the house numbers in that block because I cannot figure out his mom’s name. I am sure it’s not Fitz. So do you know the name of the crusher and how did he Fitz die? Do you recall where you learned all of this? I also wonder, since he had so many meth/drug busts if that is related? There is too much here for the FBI to clear him. They could not have known all of this.

        XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020
        I don’t know her name I will be in Evansdale Wednesday
        You sent December 7, 2020
        Ok, do you think you can catch that house number? I may drive up and look at all that other stuff next week.

        XXXX sent December 7, 2020
        I see it was on the news and in the paper back when Fitz just died this spring. They can get his mom’s DNA, grandma’s DNA, and from other relatives. They have the girl’s DNA I am sure and if the did a good investigation they kept personal items of the girls. His DNA can be on them and their bodies. They can exhume all three of them. And just what ARE they doing with any DNA they have?

  124. Larry L Kofoed says:

    To this day it bothers me, I was the last busboy to leave that Monday night and was never questioned by anyone if I had seen anything out of the normal. I knew John and Paul was my boss and I found out about the shooting the next day when I went through the lunch line at high school.

    • Tina Fintel says:

      Hi Larry! I’m Tina, Paul Rayer’s granddaughter. I can’t believe they didn’t ask you any questions. Wow! The whole thing has bothered me as well. So frustrating, and sad. Wish I could’ve had the time with him😢.

  125. Jodi shondel says:

    I can’t help but think that this girl and my aunt’s deaths are connected. My aunt shelia harrison age 20 was found dead face down on a road in 1968 in webster county the man she was with was a sales man from ames.

  126. Annie says:

    Jody, do you know if anyone ever looked at the possibility of Roger’s case being connected to the disappearances of John Gosch, Eugene Martin, and/or Marc Wilson?

  127. CoverUp? says:

    Why is the Shirley Carter link down? Her case is definitely not solved and the page should be up.

  128. carolkean says:

    Former pro boxer says he knew his longtime friend killed James Booher —
    Robert Bleakley testifies at trial of Matthew Robbins in Cedar Rapids
    By: Trish Mehaffey Apr. 22, 2021

    …..Bleakley admitted he had lied to a grand jury hearing evidence in Booher’s slaying because Robbins had told him he’d be in “a lot of trouble” if he told what he knew. Bleakley said he and Robbins had been friends for more than 30 years. He didn’t want to testify at Robbins’ trial but he did because it has been “horrible” living with what he knew for seven years. Andrew Shaw also testified Robbins admitted to killing Booher while they both were housed in the Iowa County Jail in Marengo.

    Shaw said he told Robbins he knew what had happened to Booher but that Robbins at first denied it.

    Later, when they were watching a television news report on Booher, Robbins said, “Yeah, I did it, but you already know the truth.”

    Shaw was convicted last year of running a large marijuana trafficking ring that supplied marijuana to Chris Bagley and the two men charged with killing Bagley over drug robberies from Shaw.

    Comments: (319) 398-8318; trish.mehaffey@thegazette.comhttps://www.thegazette.com/crime-courts/former-pro-boxer-says-he-knew-his-long-time-friend-killed-james-booher/

  129. Angie says:

    Lost site of him for less of a min, between 3 and 4? Maybe he ventured off into the countryside by Alton. Hopefully the police checked there to. ❤️

  130. peter mayr says:

    HOLLY GOTZ ?? serious ?? Holy Gods is making a very silly but simple joke I would say ..

  131. Bob Stika says:

    She is buried behind the tavern building at 206 N. Linn St. in Iowa City,no doubt.

  132. anon says:

    Patrick D. Baird died in 2004.
    Jerry Wintz died in 1999.
    Stephen Woodcock died in 2007.
    David Graham died in 2014.
    Frank Sykora died last year.
    Wilbur Millhouse died in 2015.

  133. Erika Parr says:

    I was reading this and realized that there had to be more than one murderer and if not why didn’t anyone hear? Especially those in the same room. The oldest guest did have defensive wounds on her body and while she was fighting off the attacker, did she scream? Why didn’t others hear? If the two guests were killed last how come they didn’t hear anyone else scream? Even if all were asleep. You would of had to hear the ax.

  134. Dan says:

    If I remember there was something about a car that she had sold to someone for a very cheap price, and there was cigarettes butt’s in the toilet
    It’s still very sad

  135. Kelly Wyman says:

    was this the same Lybarger – his father is listed as Steve….

    Zachary A. Lybarger, age 43, of Council Bluffs, passed away April 13, 2021 at CHI-Mercy Hospital.

    Zach was born June 10, 1977 in Omaha, Nebraska. He was a CNA.

    Zach was preceded in death by his wife, Misty Lybarger; son, Nickales Bywater; father, Steve Lybarger and his grandmother, Mary Lou Schroder.

  136. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    We don’t want to scar them for the rest of their lives. I mean someone fired shots in th o her residence and did not care if they killed her, the boyfriend, or the three kids. So, having their picture on billboard claiming they may be involved with her murder, will make them feel ashamed

    Although they may have fled the area, to avoid being asked about their possible involvement in the murder of another person. What difference does it make, to quote a former Secretary if State in regards to the murder of four of her employees.

  137. Sherman Hill says:

    There are ppl of interest in this case that has left state but I don’t see Why there pictures are not being showed on billboards like the other Cold cases All murders deserve the same attention

    • layla says:

      This is such a recent case too, in comparison to some of the others, it would be amazing if more attention could be brought to her murder so it would have a better chance to being solved.

  138. Bill Entrikin says:

    Ashley was murdered in Dallas County, not Polk County. Please correct this error.

    • Bill Entrikin says:

      I want to add this was probably a two-tap hit, meaning it was a professional job. Chest, then head. This does not suggest stalker or a random act of violence. If someone close to her was involved, the murder would have been much more messy. Ashley was probably targeted because of the company she worked for, and that should be the focus of the investigation.

      I believe the killer wanted to stoke fear into realtors working for the company and/or realtors working in the same area. The instant reaction by the company to protect its employees suggests that someone within the company knew the reason for this senseless crime

      Real estate deals gone bad can motivate a crazy bastard to commit a horrible crime like this. Focus on motive law enforcement, and you will solve this crime.

  139. He was the science teacher there before Kathleen Hartung.

  140. LakeLife says:

    Praying the truth comes out!
    Clearly the person in the brown pick up truck was stealing.
    Did he come back & Mr. Reed confronted him?!
    Is this why he was attacked & murdered?
    Police should try looking at brown colored trucks in that area at that time.
    Praying for justice!

  141. LakeLife says:

    Two of the four people involved in this are now dead.
    God will be their judge but there are still two others who need to be prosecuted!
    Doris needs to be exhumed & a murder investigation needs to take place!

  142. Melanie Wood says:

    She only had $20. Killed for $20. A 90 yr old woman. POS COWARD!

  143. Melanie Wood says:

    To do this to this sweet elderly helpless woman. A widow for 15 yrs. Legally blind. Small. She must have been terrified. Emma, You will be avenged. Whoever did this is a COWARD AND YOU WILL PAY! DON’T THINK YOU WON’T. YOU DESERVE THE WORST!!!!

  144. Melanie Wood says:

    IMO it was someone he trusted. With 75 weapons around. I can’t see it wasn’t.

  145. Melanie Wood says:

    I really don’t understand how or why anyone would want to hurt an elderly woman. But the criminal minder, They don’t have a conscious. They feel no empathy. No remorse. That’s how they can sleep at night.

  146. Melanie Wood says:

    He was released only to kill again. Typical of the justice system. More rights for the criminal and not for victims and future victums.

  147. Jeri Klein says:

    I just re-read Aaron Pate’s sad story. It’s awful that he has never been located. I know what his brother, Ian, has shared and that’s it. I cannot imagine the emotional toll that the surviving family members have endured including the tragic and senseless loss of their sister.
    I shared a few of my thoughts a few years ago and I also identified who i am.
    I was pretty surprised that some of the responders had choice opinions about me. But, they chose to hide behind their initials and acronyms.
    I still love my town. I have, however, become involved in several groups looking to better our town. Anyone who has felt out cast or not welcome is very welcome to join any group they wish and become part of the solution. It is difficult to put yourself out there sometimes, I’ve been there so I know.
    I certainly apologize to anyone who felt I was blaming them for not being accepted. That was never my intent.
    The original post was about Aaron Pate and I hope and pray that wherever he is, he is at peace. And, i hope his family has some sense of peace in their lives as they have had to live their lives without him.

    • KJ says:

      I agree… this is no place for commenting on the pros/cons of Keota, IA.
      I stumbled upon this site online after finding nothing at the local library.
      I have since started a blog and it’s gaining momentum.
      I had no idea a tiny little town in the middle of nowhere Iowa had so many secrets to keep.
      If I learn anything significant from my blog, I will definitely share it here for the family of the missing…

  148. Mason Mixdorf says:

    thank you

  149. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I wonder if her family knows the identity of the ex-boyfriend. It would be nice to know, if he ever been investigated by the police. She complains to police that she is being bothered by him. Then she disappears, it would make me put him at the top of the list, to be looked at real hard.

    I wonder if any other of his former girlfriends are missing.

    • Denise says:

      I believe he was questioned, but because they didn’t find a body or evidence he was let go. -her granddaughter

  150. Terri Rudsell says:

    Wow I’m reading all these comments about myself. You people have never heard my side of this. Did you know that Hal Snedeker knew how the victims were killed before the autopsy ever proved what happened? Of course not because you’re all too quick to judge people. There are so many liescout there and you have no fucking clue what I found in Hal and Linda Snedekers interviews. Bet you didn’t know that he has no alibi for that night. He has 50 plus inconsistencies in his interviews and 3 different. Stories about where he was. AND YOU FUCKERS WANT TO CALL ME A LIAR? He also told my daughter that wasn’t now the murders were supposed to have happened.. I can prove Hal was involved. All I need is for someone to do my story.AND ANOTHER THING— I did not roll Steve’s arm up in a car door, Melisa did. It happened in the 3 speed he had and I still to this day cannot drive one. Ask Patty Hilpipre, she’s the one who told me what actually happened. She was Melisas friend. Steve was ripping off Hal for drugs and was going to turn states evidence on him in court, but he died before he had the chance.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Teri, it’s nice of you to come clean of sorts. However, the victims were murdered in 1983. You have had over 37 years to tell your story, and point at someone else. I guess you could not find an attorney to represent you when you could have provided the statement you just elaborated.

      This reminds me that the family in Columbus, Ohio protected their uncle and brother because they allegedly were afriad6to rat him out for a murder he committed. After he was dead, did kind of come clean after a journalist started digging.

      I assume Hal, will come clean also, and point the finger st someone else

    • Daniel Thomas Gomez says:

      Terri yeah it made no sense to me either why they waited 31 years and let a Cold Case journalist talk them into bringing charges against you without any new evidence. Seemed kind of weird that if they were aware of possible drug dealings going on at the CDR that they didn’t bust them awhile ago. Make me wonder if he (Hal) was some confidential informant himself or was just a drug dealer that left Florida before it became to hot for him. And if they seemed to know that Steve was involved in drug dealing why they didn’t follow up on that further. Seemed like they just naturally assumed it was the so called criminal Supino family. Well hopefully you can get your story out and maybe they will get their act together in Newton & do some real police work. Best of luck and tell Tim I said hi. If he is still in Newton I will have to look him up next time I am there.

  151. Barbara says:

    This needs to be solved now.

  152. Anonymous says:

    Unblemished hope!

  153. howled09 says:

    What place was she last seen?

  154. Donald Garney says:

    Hello,my name is Donald Garney. And i am trying to find anybody that may remember or help me to find info on a homicide in webster city iowa. My Grandmother was remaried to a man with the last name Daniels, or McDaniels who murdered her and hid her body in a shed, being found weeks later. He had struck her in the head with a hammer and left her to choke on her own blood. Sorry for the detail, but ive tried everything. Hopeing now maybe someone in the earea may remember hearing about it in the news. My mother was raised in a orphanage at a very young age due to this, and has recently passed. If someone ,anybody can help?. Victims name Erma or Irma, Jane or Jean, McDaniel or Daniel murdered in webster city iowa, hamilton county or calhoun county, in 1960’s . Maiden name (carlson) . Thank you. And GODBLESS.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Donald, I recommend an online search for information related to her murder. Also, contacting the local library, they may have newspapers from that time period they could check.

      Another option, would be to see if their might be a Webster City Historica Society. The murder would have been big news and they might have some records.

      Also, I would assume that maybe the local county would have some trial records, if there was an arrest and court hearing. Those records hopefully would be resource.

  155. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    The few details claims she took a Greyhound bus from Texss to visit her father in Davenport. Yet, we have no information or proof, she even reached Davenport, or Iowa period. Then we hear that she might have been missing since 1980 and not 1982.

    Where is Sgt. Joe Friday, who asks for the facts and speculation. Can we get some more facts of when she left wherever in Texas.

    I wonder, if this was a spur of the moment visit or a planned trip. If it was a planned trip, did she have a suitcase. How long was she going to be in Iowa. We don’t where she started, if she made it out of Texas, crossed any state borders or decide to runaway.

  156. Teresa Handy says:

    prayers family gets answers to Mervin, someone knows something and pray their consious will get to them

  157. Melanie Wood says:

    It’s very unfortunate this man chose that way of life.But that gives no one the right to kill him. However people that deal with meth ruin other people’s lives. Let it be someone else. Don’t deal. Don’t take it. It’s a terrible road.

  158. Pamela Constable says:

    I believe now DNA, will give this baby the known Mother.

  159. Shannon Hardin says:

    He was my Husband

  160. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Chad, I wonder if your father was a veteran. I notice that was homeless when he disappeared. Many homeless are veterans dealing with various mental health or other issues related to military service.

    If he is a veteran, then the authorities should reach out to the Veterans Administration to see, if he has visited any VA Medical Centers since his disappearance. The VA can’t release any medical condition stuff.

  161. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I notice there is no mention of any forensic evidence recovered. There should have been something between the burglary and his murder. Also, no mention if they got a description of the intruder that Smith encountered.

    I would guess that the offender Smith encountered may have been a drug addict. I wonder if the rifle was ever recovered. Also, if local pawn shops to see if the stolen property were ever taken to them.

  162. Stay Strong! says:

    I’d recommend watching the People Magazine Investigates episode on Tammy’s case. It was a good and informative watch,

    All signs sure point to Lonnie Bierbrodt it appears from my perspective. The authorities did render an opinion on him and a few others. I want to spoil for anybody who plans on watching the segment.

  163. Tamara Morrow says:

    My little sister.

  164. Melanie Wood says:

    Bruce. What a great tattoo. A wonderful tribute to your son. Bless you sir.

  165. Melanie Wood says:

    I believe the evidence speaks for itself and the people or person involved.

  166. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I was wondering if there was any explanation for tut he tattoo of the words “Soriano” bring tattooed on her neck. Aside understand it certain tattoos in prison indicates that the person belongs to a particular gang.

    It could be a name of a family member, or maybe someone she was dating. It might be something to explore, as it might have made her a target. As being a gang member found hanging around on another gang’s turf.

  167. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I find it interesting that there was no mention of the police finding any fingerprints. Also, in regards to the .25 caliber firearm found at the scene. It would appear that it belonged to the victim. But, it not exactly identified as his. Which makes me wonder if the laundromat had ever been robbed before. This might explain Mr. Hill’s possible need to carry a weapon.

    Also, he was stabbed 21 times, which would possibly point to someone bring extremely angry with him. Also, he was shot once. But, the authorities did not identify the caliber of the bullet. I might assume he was shot with the .25 caliber. But, it is an assumption.

  168. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    In regards to the suggestion of Timothy Jay Vafeades being involved. It appears that he kept his victims captive. Lonnie Bierbodt, makes a better suspect, for the following reasons:

    He lived close to where her body was found. He was visiting family, who lived close to where she first disappeared. The blanket she was wrapped up in had a Kenworth logo on it. He drove a Kenworth truck. Also, the musical watch. Also, he sold his truck within days of her being found.

    However, all this is circumstantial evidence. It appears that the authorities most likely did not handle the processing of evidence properly. The processing of the crime scene is very important, this includes maintaining a proper chain of custody, as it is passed along to crime labs.

    The two guys caught and charged in the kidnapping and murder of Bobby Frank’s, in 1920’s Chicago, were caught because of a pair of eyeglasses found where his body was dumped. It turned the eyeglass frame was something new from the eyeglass company Almer & Coe. It turned only three people in the Chicago area, had eyeglasses with those new frames.

    Also, Colonel Goddard, MD, U.S. Army Reserve, was brought in by Cook County Coroner Jury, to process the St. Valentine Day massacre. He found that two Thompson sub machine guns had been used. One had a 50 round drum magazine and the other had a straight 20 round magazine.

    Both weapons were found in the residence of Fred “Killer” Burke, in St. Joseph. He also shot and killed a policeman, who was assigned to investigate a vehicle accident Burke was involved in.

  169. Gayl Elliott says:

    I worked with Mattie Lou also as a teacher’s aide back in 1976-1977. She was always really kind to me and all of the students. I’ve never forgotten her and have always hoped that we would know what happened. Her family should know she is still loved by me and many.

  170. cvz says:

    MIKED-its my understanding she was alone when last seen leaving place “a” to place “b” and I don’t think she was actually reported missing until day or days later.

  171. Mr. Ben says:

    My theory is she left the bar at closing time (or perhaps a little before) and passed out in her car. Both her keys and money were found in the car suggesting Crystal was in the car before she went missing.

    But I also think the car moved and whoever moved her car took advantage of the fact she was passed out/intoxicated, and took her somewhere and removed her from the car before returning it to the parking spot.

    So the kind of evidence this case needs is proving Crystal was in the backseat or passenger seat of her car and proof someone else was driving. Considering the circumstances and suspects I don’t think they’d gone very far. Five miles maybe. 20 minutes total round trip. The car is gone maybe a total of half an hour to forty five minutes depending on what he/they did. Her car moving suggests two people if they are heading out of town, but returning the car to the parking lot suggests a suspect who lives more locally or someone who needs to be back at the bar to establish an alibi.

    Also something to consider: last seen 2am bar time? (bars tend to set their clocks a half hour so they close by 2am with no patrons inside the bar as is the law) or 2am real time when the bar is supposed to be closed with no patrons? Now I don’t know if Knickers sets its clocks a half-hour fast, but it is something to consider when we put a timeline together to pinpoint the time and place someone last saw Crystal and match that up with a suspect.

  172. Krystal ficken says:

    This was my big brother and I will always love and miss him. He has a younger brother Anthony who just had a son last year. He named him Chris after his brother. If anybody has any pictures or anything of my brothers I will be willing to drive from where I’m at to where you’re at to grab it for my nephew and my brother. We just want answers as to what happened that night.

  173. Katie says:

    Why wasn’t her boyfriend at the time considered a suspect?

  174. LakeLife says:

    From what the family is saying on here it was Uncle Roy who is now dead.
    If that’s so then justice will be done in Heaven.
    So sad & sick!

  175. LakeLife says:

    If he confessed to it I feel they could have at least followed up on it!
    So sad that they both were murdered!
    Praying for justice!

  176. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I wonder who asked her to hold a gun for them. Also, her ex-husband was doing time. I am concerned about this guy Smith, who is a drug counselor after serving time with her ex-husband at the age of 22.

    I think that with her husband being in prison, that she would shy away from holding a gun for someone. She lucked out and got probation. However, her mentioning that she was bring possibly asked to be an informant put her life at risk.

  177. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Audrey, you suggest a connection to the murder of Teresa Sue Hilt. However, in Teresa’s case, she was beaten, raped, strangled, and stabbed. Also, the blood at the crime scene was cleaned up, and her body covered with a sheet.

    In Judith’s case, she died from blunt force trauma. The crime scene was different. The only apparent connection was that they were both college students. But Teresa was working on a graduate degree.

    I disagree with the thought on Teresa’s case, that the offender was a female. This assumption is based on the cleaning of the crime scene and her body covered with the sheet. A good profiler would look at the crime scene, and explain why it most likely was a male offender.

    I wonder if the police ever identified the guy, who was harassing her.

  178. LakeLife says:

    I think they need to revisit this Richard guy. He’s a cheat & I think there’s more to this story. Also, if they can get a DNA sample from the baby I feel like that’s going to help too.

  179. Kelly Verdoorn says:

    I miss my granny,,, I didn’t get the to spend a lot of time with her as an adult. I loved watching and betting on baseball with grandma. Grandma, I love and miss you

  180. Russ Heiser says:

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  182. Russ Heiser says:

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  183. Russ Heiser says:

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  184. Russ Heiser says:

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  185. Russ Heiser says:

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  186. Russ Heiser says:

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  187. Russ Heiser says:

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  188. Shirley Courtois says:

    WE HAVE A FACEBOOK GROUP BASED IN KEOKUK, CALLED THE MURDERS OF ERIC REDINBO & DOLORES HORNUNG. SEVERAL MEMBERS OF BOTH FAMILIES BELONG TO THIS GROUP. IF YOU ARE FAMILY, FRIEND, CO-WORKER, ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE INFORMATION, PLEASE JOIN OUR GROUP AND HELP US TRY TO SOLVE THEIR MURDERS. 22 YEARS IS TOO LONG FOR FAMILIES TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR JUSTICE.

  189. LakeLife says:

    It was clearly the father in law!
    GROSSS!
    How disgusting!!
    They are all passed away now.
    I hope there is piece for Gary & his wife now.

  190. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice for her!

  191. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice for both of these men!

  192. Dylan Oldenburger says:

    I think these men were murdered by the same person and because I can tell by themselves right now

  193. LakeLife says:

    Praying for justice!

  194. Julie Spotted Eagle Horse Martineau says:

    Toni was my hunska (adopted) sister, and I spoke to her two days before her murder. I have NEVER been interviewed by DCI, although I have volunteered to numerous times. She told me some things about what were going on, and that have bearing on the case. I do believe that the young man’s death and Toni’s are connected, and that DCI dropped the ball on her case.
    To them, she is just another dirty NdN/Latina, and her life wasn’t worth anything to them. I wish that we could have some closure for the family, and for the Tiyospiya who loved her. Eric’s family deserves closure as well.

  195. Daniel Gomez says:

    Well I graduated with both Tim and Terry Supino from Newton High School. I was friends with Tim Supino since Junior High at Berg. Was even over to his house a few times. Didn’t see anything out of the ordinary with the family. I didn’t really know Terri that well, but she seemed ok. And as far as if she killed them I have no idea. Them being out there the night they were killed would automatically put them on the suspect list. Now during the Cold Case interview Tim had said he told his sister they had to let the cops know that they had been out to the Ranch earlier in the night. Now why would he do that if he was guilty? Why not just let it ride and not say a thing. Evidently there was nothing discovered at the crime scene indicating they had been out there. As well I am sure that the police checked their vehicles for blood and evidence since it sounded pretty brutal. Also, to state it was definitely a crime of passion and not a drug hit I beg to differ. There has been many cases of drug hits being very brutal with beatings and even cutting people up. It all depends upon the message trying to be sent. They can even be up close and personal as well. And if it is true they have an unidentified Male DNA they could trace it utilizing new method that they used to convict the Golden State Serial killer in CA. It enables them to tie Genetic DNA to known families which normally match to 98% or so and get to the bottom of who was there. They have definitely come a long way with DNA testing.
    As far as the trial goes remember the jurors have to find them guilty without a doubt. Just here say and conjecture does not make a case. The inability to find any physical evidence is very damaging to the case they made. Especially 31 years later? You would have thought they would have left behind some clue or piece of evidence to tie her to the murder. Or used newer methods to look over and test the evidence they kept. While crime scene methods were not as good back then especially for a small town I am sure they could have brought in other agencies for help. And for those blasting people for defending the people they know IE family members and friends I would defend my family to the utmost of my being even if I knew they did something wrong. You can call me evil or whatever I could care less, but family is family period. Don’t berate me for defending my family. I can definitely tell there is a lot of emotion surrounding this case so it is understandable. But the bottom line is she went to trial and was found “Not Guilty” by a jury so unless they come up with some New evidence then she should be left alone. Besides I am sure a lot of us have said things in a fit of anger that are very damning. I don’t understand why they waited 31 years to bring it to trial. Seems to me that even back then they determined they didn’t have enough evidence back then to go to trial and what they had was just circumstantial at best. Well hopefully all involved can get on with their lives and leave it all behind as best they can. Hopefully some day the truth will come out and everyone can move on. Best of luck.

  196. A Martin says:

    Toni knew what happened and who killed Eric, that’s why they made her disappear and quickly. I don’t know why more isn’t being said about the Anderson family – or what she found out happened in the Anderson home that night Eric was shot. She was concerned and wasn’t accepting the fluff answer that authorities and other’s close to the situation were giving to the public. Following her death, all neighbors should have been equally concerned as SHE WAS or even more-so, but where did we see that? The Keokuk PD put out the false impression that they were trying to investigate when they accused her boyfriend Lewis Greer but did not have evidence. Either way, if I am not mistaken – I believe he has now passed away as of March of last year (2020).

    Shouldn’t it be mentioned that the Anderson family in one way or another now has at LEAST 10 different lots in their name surrounding the two crime scenes? There are no neighbors to “find anything,” let alone witnesses since 10 different lots and a number of the homes in those few blocks are owned by different members of the Anderson family this can easily be verified to this day – this wasn’t long ago. Who’s concerned that two murders happened in two days on the same block? I know I sure would be if my entire family lived up and down the street – even if it was in 1999.

    Eric’s homicide still being accepted as an ‘accident’ after what happened to Toni after she started to talk about the details of what happened are such an obvious cover up. I am sorry but the hush hush KPD does not have a reputation of being honest or straightforward, just look at how they treated the family of Theresa Lund after her disappearance and murder and I quote – “well it looks like she finally left you” to Terry Bell her fiance at the time before she was found dead. I think anyone who knows Keokuk even a little has story or knows someone with a story about the crooked police, it’s not exactly a secret in Lee County or Iowa for that matter.

    What kind of condition is Toni’s house in now vs. then? Why weren’t Eric’s friends at the Anderson’s house more forthcoming about the tragic incident? If this happened in your home to a ‘guest’ wouldn’t you be doing so much more to remember that person and talking about what could have been done differently? If your family/extended family owned at least 10 city-lots with two tragic deaths – (one a confirmed murder and another that IS supposed as murder) – wouldn’t you be doing so much more to encourage police investigation and to improve a neighborhood that you supposedly ‘cherish’ and own? Who’s muffling the squealers around there?

    The biggest problem here, and it’s sad I have to point this out – is that Toni and Eric didn’t get the investigation they deserve. Toni’s case was a quick distraction to shut everyone up. Eric was never investigated fully either let alone as a murder. The shoulder shrug lip service was ‘stick with the gun loading accident.’ More investigation needs to be done for Dolores. An ACTUAL investigation needs to be done for Eric. This was not a long time ago and the answer is definitely out there.

    I would also like to mention, Keokuk is not a place that changes – the answer is out there like it’s yesterday.

    Family and friends should be enraged, not defensive. Not investigating Eric’s death as a murder is truly the crime happening here. Both cases would unfold rather quickly.

  197. Russ Heiser says:

    Mark Milligan

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  198. Russ Heiser says:

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    LE may have access if FILED X # Years. Sometimes Do May NIP Harrys Ticket ISSUE in the Bud.

  199. Lisa says:

    I’m not an expert by any means but I have been a domestic violence advocate for 15 years. The personal nature of Pat’s murder points to someone close to her. Some marriages aren’t as happy as they seem from the outside. I’m sorry to all of Pat’s family and friends. I know how hard this must be, no matter how much time passes.

  200. A.C. Ab says:

    It’s an open secret in North Iowa that the police killed Jodi and have been aggressively covering it up for 25 years. Anyone who looks into it gets heavy retaliation from the police and sees their lives ruined or ended suspiciously.

    At this point, there’s no one left to get justice for in this case. Jodi’s dead, her mom’s dead, and the silenced witnesses are dead. MCPD remains a bastion of corruption and cronyism.

    No justice, just us.

  201. CM says:

    Husband did it. Two thoughts. 1) Based on Bill’s comment about finding out that Jason had an affair, he said ‘We (he and Shirley) did something wrong’. That is a comment based on morality. He felt there was a failure on their part in raising Jason. As a moral man, he may have believed he could do no wrong, and place the blame entirely on his wife. This also sounds familiar with the reports that Bill was a very controlling husband. 2) Where’s the rifle? Husband claims the son hid the rifle somewhere on the property, and retrieved it later to get rid of it. Couldn’t the husband do the exact same thing? Husband had more opportunity to get ride of the gun along the stretch of roads during his traveling to sell the grain. Or on his return. 3) Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to investigate the son is a sign of deflection/guilt. He essentially blamed the son for the death of his wife, because he thought it was her fault that their son had an affair. And 4) most important. It is HIGHLY unlikely that a son who just murdered his mother in cold blood would EVER touch her body to carefully place her hands crossed over her chest
    THAT is something that a husband/lover/significant other would do. Basically placing a loved one “at rest’. Jmho

  202. Connie Lathrop says:

    Someone knows something!!!! Please let her family get peace!!!

  203. MikeD says:

    Too bad there isn’t more information out there. When was the last time he was seen alive? Was he employed at the time? Was that a normal apartment or the kind of place made available to Eagle’s Lodge members going through hard times?

  204. Kennedy says:

    What really bothers me about this case is that it just doesn’t make any sense. First of all, there were 10 other duplexes where she lived and no one heard anything at a time when people are regularly home? The fact that her phone lines were cut doesn’t make sense for it to be just a simple robbery gone wrong especially when there are no signs of forced entry and nothing of note was missing. the fact that she was murdered between 6:00 and 6:30pm, where it would be light outside and there is a higher chance of beeing seen. Also the fact that the medical examiner said that she only had “slight” signs of a struggle just does not make sense. Paired with thte fact that there were no signs of forced entry it makes it seem like she knew the person who killed her. Apparently her husbands alibi checked out. Could it have been someone from her work or school that followed her home? Was the murder weapon ever recovered? Why were the clothes she was wearing described but not much else was? Why was the husband immediatly cleared in the origional DesMoines register article that announced her death? that just doesn’t seem normal to be like “This woman was killed, but her husband didn’t do it!” There are just so many questions

    • JP Miller says:

      To answer Kennedy directly… Lack of neighbor observation is a little troubling. A re-interview of neighbors after this many years might allay the usual fear of getting involved and anyone who did see something may have tired of guilt over failing to speak up.
      The cut lines are also troubling. It was never clear whether the lines were cut outside or inside the home. That alone would make a difference in the timeline and motivation. What kind of tool was used? Was a tool found? I can tell the difference between scissors, knife and wire cutters for example. Outside wires would be harder to cut.
      Second or third hand hearsay shortly after the murder from people who rode with her indicated her husband was at work at a shipper’s sorting facility at the time of the murder and could not have traveled in the available time. Further hearsay was that he had called home twice during that time. Once the phone was picked up but no one answer and later the phone was busy. Since both of these are hearsay I would rather see the police reports than rely on it. I would think police would have checked phone records at work and would also have checked whether her husband could have arranged a killing.
      We know none of this, so anything one might conclude about the murder is pure speculation. What is needed for any further progress is a lot more information, information the police are unlikely to release.
      The detective who interviewed me was interested in her contacts, potential extra marital interests and friends among those who commuted with her to school. I knew of no liaisons and had heard no rumors but I provided lists and schedules of those who rode with her. My job was to maintain the schedules for the commuter club. If they followed up with those people it could be as many as 5 people each way for each day of the week she rode or drove. I got no feedback or contact from police after that interview. Further hearsay indicated she rode back from school in an earlier car which was a common practice in the club. Even more people would have to be interviewed.
      In most cases I’ve gotten the impression police are rather exhaustive in interviewing potential contacts in murder cases.
      I wonder whether any physical evidence such as her clothing were preserved that could be checked for DNA. That might be helpful, much more so if it were found on a weapon or on wire cutters or the phone or wire themselves.
      Yes, there are many questions that we in the public cannot begin to help answer. Especially after so many years, it would be good for the police to release information to a limited review team to get fresh eyes on it, but not wholesale publication. I am sure police are and all of us should be concerned about wild speculation and life destroying false accusations that can go viral on the internet. It is so easy for people to gen up hysteria regarding totally innocent people on flimsy, incorrect or even false evidence and literally destroy their lives. The Atlanta bombing and the drowning of Elissa Lam are two that come to mind.
      It is also possible the police know exactly who killed Mary but are unable to prove it with enough evidence to convict. Perhaps they know but that person is serving a long prison sentence already. Perhaps they know but the person is dead. Perhaps the person is avoiding prosecution overseas. Releasing information could jeopardize future prosecution or foil plans to capture that person. Releasing information they can’t yet prove can expose them to defamation lawsuits etc.
      I got a hint from what Kennedy wrote that he may suspect some kind of cover up. Unanswered questions about how quickly the husband was cleared are not evidence of malfeasance. They are simply unanswered questions.

  205. Jack MeHoff says:

    Clinton Iowa has the most cold case deaths in Iowa. Very sad

  206. Jodyh says:

    Why aren’t the physical addresses mentioned? Maybe the evidence is still around like the gun? Sorry for your losses🙏🏻.. Kpd threw me in jail with a broken jaw and I had a T.BI. Didn’t care if I died in Lee County…

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      It depends how they handled it. Also, they may not want to reveal wh as they have. Although they may have used it to try and convict her boyfriend. However, they may not want to spend the money to retest something unless it might provide an investigative lead.

  207. Malissa L McGregor says:

    Thanks for sharing that touching story sounds close to mine I’m aka Seville

  208. Dave says:

    What is Keokuk Police doing? There were comments from Toni after his death?

  209. Babydoll says:

    I knew this family years ago, his son Dovey, Big Earl, Earl JR, Andre.
    Dovey helped me survive in 1984-1989,do to my parents kicking me out , being molested, and lots of other factors, not having anywhere to go.
    The best advice they gave me was, you can play a victim all your life, or you can be strong and be a survivor, because life is hard.
    Sugar Bear helped me when Dovey and I had a falling out, and tried to make it right.

    Years later I seen Sugar Bear, he asked me why I left the family, we had a conversation, I explained and he told me no matter what, he’d always thought of me as family, I genuinely feeI the same. I know, Sugar Bear wasn’t the most examplillary person, but him and Dovey did have good advice.
    Another piece of his advice was, if I’m asking you something, I already know the answer, so yours better be right.

    He will live on , through his family and friends.
    He always was hustling, trying to make a dollar, make more than what he grew up with.
    He gave shelter to alot of people, at Hollywood Hookup, his car lots and other business ventures. May his family someday get justice for him.
    He was always proud of his family, not many knew alot about him except those closest, may he rest in peace.

    BabyDoll

  210. Advocate Dee says:

    Hello Johnny Gosch,… Please email me we have talked before my friend

  211. LakeLife says:

    Obviously she did this or knew who did.
    His poor wife!
    To find out your husband is cheating on you & that he’s dead.
    Praying the killer is found!

  212. LakeLife says:

    They need to do DNA testing!
    Praying this gets solved!!

  213. LakeLife says:

    Praying they catch this killer!

  214. MW says:

    I hate to say it, but is there any way this could possibly be a suicide and coincidentally be that close to Brenda Dailey’s murder? I know, it’s really crazy to be so close together in both time and location, but I just think it’s strange that it happened so close to his wife’s death and their wedding anniversary. So sorry for the family, that must have been so hard to deal with both parents dying that close to one another and not knowing for sure what happened to their father!

    • MW says:

      I’m mostly wondering why they called it a homicide. Is it because nobody thought he could’ve fallen down the stairs, or is it because there is other evidence pointing to the fact that he may have been murdered?

  215. Phil W says:

    I heard many stories about Matt Kennedy and the family growing up. So sad. Happy
    to hear justice will be served.

    • Phil W's ex wife says:

      uh huh, I’ve heard many stories about you too Phil W. Your family really isn’t too fond of you buddy.

  216. cheri says:

    i am erin’s aunt and fully believe curtis padgett did abduct erin and i believe he knows exactly where she is.

  217. This comment is fake says:

    THIS IS A SCAM THERE IS NO JADE THOMPSON WHO KNOWS MY FAMILY. DO NOT DONATE ANY MONEY

  218. CowLover69;) says:

    Trivia Comment: How many cows does everyone think is in Montana? I guaranty you are wrong!

  219. Harry Potter Fan 980 says:

    Plot twist: Volemort did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE WILL RISE SOON!!!!!!! BEWARE OF MORE DEATH, MORE WILL COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  220. MikeD says:

    Did Rita have a vehicle that is also missing? If so, what are the details of that vehicle? If she didn’t, how did she normally get around? News reports say she was last seen at the casino and other says she went missing after leaving the casino. Casinos have a lot of cameras, even the parking lots. Was she last seen leaving alone or with someone else? Did she get in a car?

  221. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I have a problem, with the fact that the cause of death has not been released
    She was murdered over 30 years ago, what are they waiting for. Did they expect that someone was going to walk in and confess to a crime they did not committ.

    We have other cases involving homicides, where we know the cause of death. Many agencies do hold back some tidbit of information kn these Cases. But again after 20, 30 or 40 years, and the case is unsolved, what good has it done.

    Also, many departments are remiss in keeping in contact with victims families. They have no clue, that this causes the victim’s families. So, it appears to the family that the death of their loved one, is not big deal, and that the police don’t care.

    The one investigator mentions that most of their homicides were drug related. So, he is okay with that. So, it was the victim’s fault that she was murdered.

  222. carolkean says:

    A new book about Paula is coming in June:
    What Happened to Paula: On the Death of an American Girl
    Hardcover – June 15, 2021
    by Katherine Dykstra

    > In July 1970, eighteen-year-old Paula Oberbroeckling left her house in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and never returned. A cold case for fifty years, Paula’s story had been largely forgotten when Katherine Dykstra began looking for answers. A woman was dead. Why had no one been held responsible? How could a community give up and move on? Could there ever be justice for Paula?

    > Tracing the knowns and unknowns, Dykstra discovers a girl who was hemmed in by the culture of the late 1960s, when women’s rights had been brought to the fore but had little practical bearing on actual lives. The more she learns about Paula, the more parallels Dykstra finds in the lives of the women who knew Paula, the lives of the women in her own family, and even in her own life…What Happened to Paula is a timely, powerful look at gender, autonomy, and the cost of being a woman.

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  223. […] instances of Helen Kelly, Thomas Doughtery and Dale Robinson all have been open for a long time and they all have a person concept in frequent. Not only is the […]

  224. Jimmy james says:

    ….. I’ll tell you.. the certain sacrifices got to be made in life. If that was my family that nurse would be dead and a whole bunch of other people would be gone
    because honestly nothing’s work so far trying to do the honest way

  225. Bill Coleman says:

    There has been misconduct issues with law enforcement, county attorneys and court appointed attorneys. If you of low social status, you get no justice.

  226. JdF says:

    Could someone please clarify what specific years Les worked in law enforcement?

  227. Bernard Fife says:

    Didn’t it state that Hanni brought back a guy with him from the Jet where the two had been drinking? How does anyone know this. Who else was at the home that night that can positively identify or state that the 2 men showed up at the home together or maybe hanni came home alone and this other guy could have tailed him to the home and shot them all stole their dope and took off in the dead of the night. Or wait his new girlfriend was there and how ironic she decides to up and leave in the dead of the night after 1am to drive back to where she’s from? Now how long was she here in sioux city with him? Why she leave so abruptly and at that time. How was she going to get back home drive? What made her decide to go back home. Or did she leave with the other man that came home with hanni? Talk about a lucky gal. And what about the wild bunch that the cops said were known to use drugs that came home with them and trashed the house or left it in a mess? And what about the little rat who goes and tells the cops ” oh by the way I swiped some weed from one of the guys earlier in the night at the house. Who does that?? Only an idiot who wants to implicates himself in the home the night of the murder and now as a thief and possibly something more. What was his follow up interviews like? The 3 were no good that’s for sure. Hanni eats out a big dope dealer in Denver’s prolly because he couldn’t pay his weed bill and was most likely told he’d pay with his A$$ so he decides to be a SNITCH. WHAT HAPPENS TO A SNITCH IN JAIL. YEP HE DON’T LIVE TO SEE TOMORROW. Now anti union views wouldn’t of gone over well back in the 70’s either. Ibp had some bad strikes where houses were blown up back in 70’z and 80’s n animals were even killed hung up on clotheslines they said?? Now the old ladies or mother n friend entered the home they see the pregnant girlfriend first, as she was shot dead and her leg is stuck in the small swinging doors they used to separate rooms back then. Where was she going? Now Hanni was all dressed and still in his winter coat out in another room or the room where the pregnant gal lay and he was face down shot execution style in the back of the head behind the ear and in the back. And lastly the woman find her son Billy in another room he shared with his pregnant g/f, and he’s naked prolly because him n his girl were what done having sex and she went out to get him a beer or her something to eat or drink, and now let’s figure out who’s shot first? Billy is in their makeshift bedroom where the mattress was and he’s naked, she’s in her robe barely made out of the bedroom, and Hanni is fully dressed laying face down fully clothed. I’d say the wild bunch who came over and trashed house and drank with them and they were known to be bad news on dope, probably made hanni think he could ride along with them so he got popped 1st, she come running out and she got popped 2nd, and Billy awakes to all this noise and standing there naked one of the no good bunch slips behind him puts gun to his head and says good night sorry to wake you but you just laid on us so bang your dead but you were still moving so a couple more for good measure , they steal their dope and leave and collect the ransom money from the colorado dope dealer that hanni ratted on and anyone who talks will be next. I seriously doubt it had anything to do with anti union b/s. They came here to hide and work not sit out on an upcoming picket line. They never stayed in one place long enough. So naturally when asked if they will honor the strike they prolly said hell with the union I came here to work. Sure that didnt go over well them being new guys. I’m sure it didn’t garner and murder scheme over it. They carried guns in lunch boxes cause they were snitches, petty thieves and credit card buyers prolly purse snatchers too. But when you owe the dope dealer money and rat him out to avoid paying him and he gets jail time he’s gonna tell the boys you find those little bitches and snitches and see to it they don’t have the chance to snitch again. I’m surprised their tongues weren’t cut out. That was mafia style for a snitch in the 70’s. They came up here because mom n dad hot the hell out a dodge where they were from so g/f is knocked up cant just leave her let’s go to iowa see mom n dad for a bit then leave. Problem was they stayed too long and talked too much because I bet hanni was a talker. Prolly talked all kinds of crap like they were big time criminals, thieves, pot smokers and dope dealers themselves, so they had to get a job because they couldn’t all 4 stay with Billy’s mom n dad. So Hanni’s girl prolly says ” you guys said we were only going to iowa to visit and go back to her hometown but they lied to her so she says I need to go take care of a couple things and I’ll be back. Well she had no plans to come back. She was gonna rat out their butts soon as she got home but someone already beat her to it and in the dope world a bounty on a snitch’s head travels fast and back then those biker rough crowd that did them in prolly was getting their weed from colorado or California and bikers transported that stuff back then. So word of mouth travels like wildfire and they got wind of the bounty on these 2 clowns and they collected. If they’d a visited mom n dad and left they might a lived another week a month. But I still bet Hanni talked too much or to the wrong guys and someone found out about the hit the dope dealer in colorado prolly put on them and they couldnt pass it up. Cruel fricken world. But anytime you get involved in drugs and snitch out a guy instead of paying him and this is back in the 70’s. Mafia killings were going on, mafia was in the labor unions then too, Hoffa style but that didn’t cause these deaths. Snitching on a dope dealer did. That’s my opinion only. I played detective and I like my theory. Can’t stay in one place too long fellas. You knew that. A gun in the lunchbox in the car can’t do much for ya now can it. Remember when grandma or grandpa said watch the company you keep. When your new in town, you keep your mouth shut, you don’t tell where your really from ever. And never bring strangers into your home. And don’t go in there’s remember. Nope you forgot. Bang your dead, and so us she and so is he. It was coming soon anyway because you guys lied to hanni’s new girl so she bailed on you and by the skin of her teeth did she make it home in the nick of time and able to to tell about it to her grandkids. She would of been your snitch just someone beat her to it.

  228. Jonas Roy Helme says:

    It seems fairly likely that Reed is actively omitting parts of the story like Zirtzman’s involevement in the rescue, could she be trying to distance herself from him? Could she have been trying to avoid anyone suspecting her involevement in Zirtzman’s testimony?

    The terrible condition of Jaymie points to possible child abuse, this is backed up by the scalding-like burn marks on her body causing the burnmarks on 33% of her body, yet not causing any singeing of the hair. Could Jaymie have been trying to ease pain from scalding by submerging herself in the bathtub?

    I theorize that Zirtzman had been exploited to take the blame, this could be done by promising him that he would also be hailed as a hero after giving the testimony that someone else prepared for him. Could Reed have been the one to design the testimony?

    Reed possibly caused the fire to cover up the abuse of Jaymie, afterall if she died in a fire thsi would cover up the scalding wounds and make the bacteria in Jaymie significantly harder to detect.

  229. Russ Heiser says:

    ORIGINNALY “Perked” my Interest. Still Does. Hpwever taken Up enouhj Comment SPACE.

    I’m Gone for NOW. Think Mark Milligan Mentioned LE has Opened “CI”Case.

    Plenty County, State , City Investigators.

    thx

  230. Russ Heiser says:

    Painting(Sketch) Time Board Albua Iowa

    July st 1984 Albia Iowa Poipulation1984?

    Sunrise 543AM Didnt GiveHARRY Long Prior to SUNRISE if Left üptown 5-530

    Weather Conditions? read

    `977 Pontiac Grand Prix average 15mpg at 16 gallons

    Gasoline stations?

    AVERY approx 7Miles Away..

    In Portrait WHO Standing inin Business District with Harry

    1977 Pontiac Grand Prix Average 60 MPH Country Backroad

    On Full Tank Can Plot Where “Harry” Could JAVE been VARIOUS Roads EVERY 10 Miles or 10 MINUTES

    Avery(House 10 Miles or 10 Minutes?.

    Daylighr CLOSE

    Ticket Issued for Headlamps What Day? ANY OTHER Tickrts By that COP Near Time Frame? The Lag Newspaper DATE Published and Written,

    Small Town “Harry turn Your Headlights ON”!(Warning per say) Wasnt LIKE Midnight

    Imagine Festive DAYS Picking Uo. Small TOWN with 4th July Activities CLOSE

    Anyone ASK if “Harry”had Part 4th? Should BEEN Returned

    1977 Grand Prix 240 Miles Full Tank Gas(Most Daylight Driving)

    Imagine MONTHLY Marine Reservist CHECK? If Active. When did Harry Cash Last Military Check or ANY Deposit. EVEN if BANK No RECORD Military Finances?

    Clothes or Suitcase Obvious in CAR Preplanned Trip.

    “Harrys” Civilian Job?

    ect ect ect The Picture Will Fill In with more Colors.

    Put TimeLINE in Perspective and Not GARBBLED or Haywired

  231. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Sue, I have found that a lot of records from Iowa are not on Ancestry for some unknow9reason. If anything there should have been a Social Security Death Index entry. But then he died in 1960.

    The other surprising thing is there is no mention of him having a family, unless he was estranged from his family.

    The other problem is how can the public help with the investigation when we have no information to work with. We don’t know how he died, where he died, or any other detail related to him being murdered.

    It is sad that the police department decided to keep most of anything from the public. Yet, it appears the present leadership has not made an effort to release more details. b

  232. LakeLife says:

    Praying that God brings justice for you Micheal & your father family!
    My heart breaks for you & your sisters as well as his bride to be!!

  233. LakeLife says:

    We’re their any signs of a struggle?
    She was beaten to death so I’m sure she would have struggled with her attacker.
    I wonder if she has his/her blood under her finger nails?!
    Praying the killer is brought to justice!

  234. LakeLife says:

    The fingerprints they have need to be run through Codis.
    They need to exhume her body & get DNA OR test that DNA they do have.
    Something needs to be done.
    This is sick & it needs to be solved.
    So disturbing.
    My heart breaks for all involved as well as that many police officers who investigated this case.
    Praying this gets solved & that the offender gets caught!

  235. Michael D Rogers says:

    AS THE SON OF THIS TRAGEDY, TO THIS DAY, MY BIOLOGICAL MOTHER & HER FAMILY HAVE REFUSED TO OFFER ANY SUPPORT ON THIS ISSUE. INFACT, THEY RATHER NOT DISCUSS, AND WERE MORE INTRESTED IN RUNNING ME OFF WHEN I TOOK THE TIME OUT OF MY LIFE TO CONFRONT THEIR PAST. THEY WERE MORE INTRESTED IN SHUNNING MYSELF. RICHARD MCKINLEY SKILLINGS, PATRICIA ANN KELLEY SKILLINGS, THEIR CHILDREN, MICHELLE,SHELIA,MARK & MIKE SKILLINGS. IF YOU KNOW ANY OF THESE FOLKS, ENLIGHTEN ME IF YOU WOULD HOW THESE FOLKS CAN LOOK THE OTHER WAY TO THIS CRIME THEIR MOTHER WAS AWARE OF. THANK YOU.

  236. God Bless the Bentley Family says:

    Some situations just seem to stay with people their whole lives. Linda’s situation is one such situation that has stayed with me. I didn’t know Linda, or her family members, but I very clearly remember the case. I was a High School Sophomore living in Sgt. Bluff at the time, and I was bothered that her murder was unsolved and that her family had never received the justice that they deserved. A few years after her death (1987, I think) an older step brother of mine told me that one of his friends told him that he had killed Linda. I wasn’t told to the entire conversation, only that he said he did it, which was horribly vague. I was living in Kansas City at the time that my brother told me this, and I contacted the Sioux City Police in an attempt to pass the information to someone. I knew at the time it was a stretch, hearsay, whatever, but I was compelled to bring the information forward in hopes that someone would follow the lead. I was told by the person on the phone that information from someone who heard something from someone who heard another person wasn’t the sort of lead that would be helpful in the case. I was thanked for my call and that was that. To this day, I believe that Loren Brown killed Linda Bentley. Not just because my older step brother said he confessed to it, but because Loren Brown was one of the creepiest people I have ever met, and I believe him capable of killing someone without remorse.

    • Fia says:

      I was living in Sioux City when my sister in law told me about the little boy Manuel Ramirez’s death right when it happened. I’m no police officer but right away told her that I suspected he was murdered !!! How on earth did these officers fail to realize this at the time. A few years ago I’d read the biological father was locked up and the child lived with the stepmother and her kids. This woman got away with murder !!! And from what I understand she may have fled to Mexico. HOW’S ABOUT PUTTING A WARRANT OUT FOR THIS THING THAT MURDERED THIS INNOCENT CHILD. I raised 9 children and would have gladly taken in this child. My heart breaks thinking how this little boy was more likely being treated. Father gone, mother gone and left to someone who killed him. 😭😭😭😭😭😭 One can only pray there’s a heaven and the angels and God are with him.

  237. Russ Heiser says:

    To Mark Milligan

    My Apptoach from INVESTIGATIVE Stanfpoint

    INFORMATION Could STILL be of RECORD.

    Things Should have been looked INTO even on “Suspious” Disapperance

    For whatever ‘reason(s) were NOT

    Haven’t Seen Mention Military “Dog Tags” 1984 WERE Popular as your aware FORMER Marine. Do you RECALL if “Harry” wore Regular? 21 at time Missing LOT young guys WORE even if NOT Active Status. VITAL in itself ïf” did. Lotta Open Country Iowa Understood. Lot of things GONE by now. Dpg Tags still around Somewhere UNLESS removed from “Harry” Even if removed. Maybe Metal Detector on ANY UNIDENTIFIED Suspect Sites may provide clue(s).

    * Former Military Police Investigator (Army)

    SAW LE has OPENED as CI Case. The Military Jacket “Harrys” last KNOWN timeline on Base. Medical, Dental and or ACTIVITIES on File?

    Reason mention Hospital CHECK and Marine VA? Any Visits that time Frame.

    Likely had Reservist ID possibly SSN “Printed” on front, Another “Door” Cracked.

    Someone had ACCESS even 1984 to SSN Nip in BUD May still be PAPER Trail( electronic) Now if Financials Tampered with.

    The Credit “Bureau” Giants Emerging in 80s

    Know mentioned POSSIBLE $ around $1800 “Poker” Lot Money 1984. IF taken from “Harry” Spent SOMEWHERE or SOMEONE else. New Car Show up in Neighborhood?

    I’m approaching as COLD Case with EMBERS still Burning.

  238. Jim says:

    I am in my 70s and grew up in the area. I am well aware of the gambling in K-town. The 400 Club was owned by Jay Hickey and was one of the oldest gambling establishments in town. Yes, it had a 2nd floor. Jay was a well like man and I know of no trouble at the club. It was said he ran an honest game.

  239. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I guess Judge Glanton we, missed the fact that Mr. Holt is dead at the hands of both individuals, that he released. Did, Judge Glanton, think that Mr. Holt, shot himself, or that the bullet came from ourtspace.

    Also, there was bad blood, between the three of them, Mr. Holt did pull not pull a weapon of any kind. So, I hope that Judge Glanton, took the time to explain to Mr. Holt’s family, why he let two guys get away with causing his death.

    I like that a witness claimed that Wilson had a good record in the community. I guess because of his dispute with Mr. Mure, another person iui s dead. I hope he or Mr. Mure went on to lead a good life and another family lost a loved one.

  240. veronica a hayes says:

    Through DNA, I have found that Jerry Lee Huff is my birth father. I know he was not a good person, and running around the area at this time. If you need any DNA for cold cases….I’m willing to offer it. Good Luck on your case, very sad story.

  241. Kristin says:

    What about this little boy? Boone Denton died Feb. 1, 2018, in Creston of complications from blunt force trauma to the abdomen, according to the state medical examiner’s office. So far, there have been no arrests in the case.

  242. Rita Heideman says:

    Pat Heideman contacted Dateline last year (2019). Dateline had contacted him yesterday and they are doing a show including this story. Hopefully this will get solved in 2021.

    • Michael D Rogers says:

      Hello, I’m Michael David Rogers Jimmy’s son. Thank you for taking and interest and keeping this tragic story alive! Means alot to me.

  243. Rhonda Clark says:

    Under what circumstances could someone legally adopt a 28 year old at the time this happened?

  244. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    All these years later Les finally gets arrested for stuff that he allegedly has been doing for years, according to comments on this forum. The other question, is the involvement of Kim’s mother Joyce. She, appears to have allowed her husband Les, to do a lot of bad stuff over the years.

    I think that she has some explaining to do. She moved in and married this man. She appears to be okay, with his actions and abuse. I wonder if covered up other abuse by her living husband.

  245. LakeLife says:

    Praying this gets solved!

  246. Brad says:

    What was he doing alone on a gravel road at night? How did he get there? Where was he going?

  247. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I don’t understand why the Davenport Police did not complete a report. This is the basic part of their job. Even though someone claimed that it was a suicide. The coroner or medical examiner makes the final decision on cause of death.

    There should be an investigation by an outside agency to determine who is at fault. If necessary they should be charged with obstruction of justice. This reflects the trust the community has that their police department conducting any investigation.

    This starts at the chief and goes down hill. It reflects on his leadership that he allowed this to happen.

    • LakeLife says:

      This is so obvious to me.
      His “best friend” was having an affair with his wife then she takes the kids away for the weekend & he just happens to be murdered?!
      Then his “best friend” just HAPPENS “finds” him & automatically try’s to say he committed suicide?!
      THE “best friend” has friends at the police station & they don’t even TRY to do the MOST BASIC of police work but instead just try to confuse & cover things up?!
      His wife & “best friend” have now gone on to their judgement.
      My heart breaks for his children & family!

    • Stay Strong! Seek Justice! says:

      Most excellent!

      There’s a special place in hell for child abusers. Throw in the mothers of Ricky Morehouse & Keara Coshow into the deep recesses of hell as well.

  248. Brad says:

    Why so little interest in this tragic incident??

  249. Stephanie Myers says:

    My heart hurts for her sister and what happened to Mrs. Reimann, It takes a special kind of low life coward to harm anyone but especially elderly, handicap, children and of course animals. I pray for justice.

  250. Russ Heiser says:

    May be of Interest How a Car Can Change

    Inspection 1970 Chevelle AUTHENTICATION on You Tube

    I’v had Fun with CARS thru the Years. 1969 Challenger 1969 Mustang and 1976 Ford Stepside.

    How a CAR can Change. Nothing wrong with THAT. NOTED. May “Perk”Intrest.

    Not VISIBLE except Close INSPECTION. Car Collector. “Gives 1970 Chevelle Once Over “per Say (No Spell Check obvious)

    The Original Car “Somewhat”Vanished. Owner(s) FIXED to Personal Liking.

  251. Russ Heiser says:

    John. Got a Chuckle if Anything.

    Speculation? Listen What you just said.

    If you Jump in the Pond and Find Car. You wont be Speculating.

    If YOU don’t FIND Car guess What?

    Think they Welcome Comments. Someones “kid” Reads this May have Idea

    or Speculation meant in Sincerity.

    FACT: Harry is Missing and has Not Returned. No Video Survveillance has SHOWED Up(yet) Tho even 1984 would seem Video Poker Room.

    Winner might wanna Keep Hidden……for Later Laugh

    yet. No Conversation with “Harry” revealed of What he said to indicate What or Where

    other than SPECULATED Headed *(yet)* 36 Year Old Cold Case’. Did Not Know

    Personally. Have Not Spoke to Neighbors or Friends.(or Harry) So I Even Speculate

    What was “Harrys”” Hobbies, Hang Outs, Best Friends, Cop Issues 1984 (dtugs ect not to SAY Involved.

    Someone OTHER than “Magecian” Make Car Vanish. Most Magecians work on Illusions.

    Fence? Strip? Water?

    This Case be Nice Harry showed up, been in Mexico. Might Slug him then ask “Want Beer”?

    Was YOU Wondering if I WAS Still Around. Lurking in Background?

    More of Question to Draw Out ANY Responsw

    Water issue SOMEWHAT Searched. (Similiar to Recent Find of Man in Car) Arrest Made believe.

    LE Advised believed Dived Twice. Then Found Car

    • John Collins says:

      Sorry if I rained on your speculation spoltight Russ! Judging by your amount of posts you feel your answers are the most correct even if not really probable. My suggestion was based on likely probability and not speculation. Many times (several) when some one and their vehicle disappears as well, it quite often went in the water somewhere near. You obviously feel there is a major conspiracy like Jimmy Hoffa disappearing and are enjoying the spotlight for your conspiracy theories!
      Enjoy your limelight Russ!

  252. John Collins says:

    Looking at the comments they appear to be a lot of hearsay, rumor, and speculation and few if any real facts. If you look closely at Google earth at the road from Albia to Avery, you’ll see a fair sized pond right next to the road on the outside of a curve along the way. If some one were to doze off or pass out going into that curve, they’d obviously end up in that pond with little to no evidence of it even happening.
    Instead weaving a bunch of speculation, you should do something factual and positive and seriously check that pond out!

  253. Russ Heiser says:

    Corrected

    Hyden Harris over VEHICLE Cpl US Army

    December 2020

    Indicates Heated Exchange Meet Over Vegicle

  254. Russ Heiser says:

    Example *See Article* Nov 2020

    missing SOILDER Cpl Hayden Harris

    See Article

    How Fast Went DOWN Over VEHICLE

    Found Dead New York 2ps Age

  255. Missing Person cases with Nikki says:

    I’m definitely going to cover this on my youtube channel hope he comes home or gets justice

  256. LakeLife says:

    I also think it’s odd that his gun went missing & then he’s shot with the same type of gun just weeks later?

  257. LakeLife says:

    I think it was his wife!
    You don’t sell the guys company a couple months after he dies like that.
    Plus she has motive because she was addicted to gambling.
    I pray justice will be done some day!

  258. Enus says:

    Are you a troll? Sure seems like it! Hogging up the threads with some nonsense.

  259. Russ Heiser says:

    Example

    Wanted Running or NOT. 1977 Pontiac (Example) Reward Offered. Send Photo and VIN#

    Check Your Barn Under Tarp ect

    Should Stop ANY Unpaid REWARDS Offered

  260. Russ Heiser says:

    Comment

    Ideas INNOVATION?

    National Car Recovery REWARD Club. Flyers Sent Out.

    Suprised FBI or LE as MANY Divers Not REQUIRED to Conduct ONE EXERCISE AT LEAST fot Training.

    Marines Army Navy Air Force Coast Guard. Training Exercise REAL TIME “If Happen” Recover Suspious ITEMS Should NOT be Violation Posse Com a tatous(No Spell Check) Approched as Training with Coordnated Data Base.

    Fun and Interesting.

    Would Put to REST “We ALL live in a Yellow Submerinr”(Song) Cute tho……Pun Intended Beattles.

  261. Russ Heiser says:

    NOTE

    Yes Few Drails “Off” from PUBLISHED Info. RePubed here.

    I Am only “Glancing” Information. As if MYSTERY Novel

    I am NOT Investigating. MANY Aves Open or UNCHECKED

    Suspious Missing SHOULD Have WARRANTED “Full Investigation!

    No CONNECTION to St Louis Car Dealership.

    As with Ponds and LAKES. FLYERS of 77 Gtand PRE to AUTO Dealerships?

    Different “Twist” to Msgnet Fishing Per say.

    Even Song Private Malone. What Xoulf Happrn to Car.

  262. LakeLife says:

    Praying that the truth comes to light!

  263. LakeLife says:

    My grandma lived in Coralville & we lived in Hills in 1992 that was the year before my parent divorce.
    Hills is such a small town.
    Scary to think it might have been someone we had known in that town or someone we had known in the town my grandma lives in.
    Why can’t they just do a DNA test?!
    This poor babies life mattered!!

  264. LakeLife says:

    Praying the truth comes out!

  265. LakwLife says:

    Praying that the truth comes out!

  266. LakeLife says:

    All three men just happened to be able to provide alibis for eachother the night she goes missing & Melvin admitted that he had hired these guys to follow her?!
    It was obviously him!!

  267. Russ Heiser says:

    Ok

    JustLlisten to Song Pvt Malone by David Ball You Tube

    Saw 1977 Pontiac Grand Prix Sold by Dealer Same Cplpr body and Seats
    Two Different Vins Indicated One Dealer TYPED 2nd Photo BUT have to Scroll.

    Only 10K Miles. Had to Sit SOMEWHERE that few Miles?

    Dealer in Buisness 50 YEARS Could be Simple MISTAKE

    Daniel Schmitt Dealership St Louis Mo

    Simple Phonr Call Should Clear Up IF Intrest

  268. Russ Heiser says:

    Mark

    Said Im OFF this. I get started and,,,,,,,,,,,,Puzzle?

    To Avery . Already was KNOWN to MOST . and Albia also LE and Mark Milligan “Off Duty”

    Ks and Ms CONNECTION?

    Consider 1984 Mo Drink Age 18 Kansas City other side Line Downtown 21 (or other way around. Read Harry Drank at LEAST BEER.

    Consider 1981 1982 1983 Age 18 to 20 Made LOT “Beer Runs” Kansas City. Not Harry Particular. Tho MARK May Know.
    Large Flea Market Lil Fun Shopping?.
    3hrs Out 3 Back. Full Day “FUN”

    1984 Drinking Age Kansas City Changed Both Sides State Line to 21

    KSB(Kansas City Butcher) Operating 1984 Did NOT Have to Visit TOWN or send Recruiter per say(only read~Video thought had one)

    Bar(s) Open Longer Kansas City want Party Contibue

    More “Options “FENCE” or Strip Nicr CAR

    Any FLYERS of Harry SENT to Kansas City? “IF” Harry KNOWN to VISIT Occassionally? Ages 18 to 20 This “COULD be something DUE to KSB Victims ALL KNOWN(op Word) 18 to 21, Tho Another Video Believe LOT MORE Victims.

    MAY have NOTHING To DO With KSB(deceased)

    A Flyer Might PERK Intrest that would NEED Factual Verificaton Simple PHONE Call.

    If NO KSB Connection, Fence Car? Favorite Bar? ect ect

    Your Ball.

    Im Gone for NOW

  269. Russ Heiser says:

    PS

    Rope or light Chain from Shore attached to Magnet. Videos HOW on YOU TUBE.

    Even FROM Shore BUDDY SYSTEM any ISSUES. DRONES on SUNNY CLEAR Day with Camera. IF IF IF Car DRIVEN In probally CLOSE Shore UNLESS Lake or River has Current(maqy have DRIFTED by NOW)

  270. Russ Heiser says:

    Recall COLUMBO Detective Series?

    Im Not HIm

    However ONE MORE THING!

    Anyone TRY “Magnet Fishing? The Dive Researchers Would be Cooll.

    Your Generally NOT Gonna Pull Car OUT, HOWEVER Magnet VERY STRONG)

    ) May Warrent further Research STRONG(VERY) May Also Find Gun or Knife Metal Pipes Ect.

  271. Amazonnnfpj says:

    reproduced by hand, in contrast

  272. Russ Heiser says:

    Mark

    Yes FACTS the Best. Someone Calls with a Tip. But Needs Verification on Factual Basis Unless YOU Prtsonally KNOW Tipster.

    This is Considered COLD. Other words Not much ACTIVITY. Call still could Come

    Spmetimes Discussions May Develop Lead Which Lead to Tips Investgated to Facts

    SEEMS Money at Poker Table 1984 WARRENTED sucjh Investugation

    Murphy in Knoxville wound Up Missing 20 July 1984 Body Found Nov 1984 by Hunters. REPORTED as Missing. The Murder Investigation dif not began till body Discovered

    I’v Worked with FBI Secret Service DEA Local SD Task Force as IO (Independent Operator) and Military

    Usually did not ask me to sit around wait fot Phone to Ring. Perp say “I did it” without Developing Lead or Hunch and Speculation ar Times Ferreted Out. Tho Drank lot Coffee.

    These Comments Pointed Towards LE

    Yes Easy way solve Mystery. Start back book Read Foward 2nd Read If POINTS nissed 1st READ.

    Ill Respect Your 1st POST and LEAVE at rhat. Phone or Visit May Happen Still with FACTS and Closure

    Im Outside “Looking In, Perked my Intrest from FACTS you Do Have

    Like Im Reading Mystery Novel Front to Back tothe Conclusion.

    Ill Respect Not Interested.

    Something Not “sitting” quite Right. Chapter Missing.

    .

    • Darlene says:

      The word fact us very important here and I disagree with you on if you know the person. From personal experience I believe if you read the letter above. which I can not say for sure but believe his information came Steve .This letter has caused me alot of anger know how many false statements he made.Jeff did corporated but mark didn’t know this at the time.Steve however was confused on the car parking and it was no big deal but it was wrong. We have learn alot this past few months I understand why a 3rd person was with them and his car was park there. They have been coroporating with law enforcement however they don’t have a friendly relatelationship with Mark I don’t know what happens to Harry he was my friend to I was who his mom called that morning to go looking I asked questions first. Mark never called me.or reply to my tex in 2016 I miss Harry I don’t recall ever being so upset when he didn’t come .but I don’t ever want to excuse of knowing something or or having my words turned around. I would love to have the facts and Harry home but it the facts not just what someone says or here.

  273. Russ Heiser says:

    In Cosieng

    Any Witness or Suspect Connection to Kansas City?KSB has Lots Photos again deceased, Found No Photo of “Recruiter” per Say. Small TOWN may Reconize KSB Visiting Bar or Poker Room LE may be Worth Showing KSB Photo SINCE DECEASED since 1992 oe so

  274. Russ Heiser says:

    NOTES Only NOT INVESTIGSTION

    KSB Called Cops on a MO-Ks Victim so NO Misunderstanding NOT Murphy, But PERKED Intrest Similarities “Hospital” Since KSB Deceased might be worth Check 1984 Hospital Logs.Also again Interesting Only Victims Murphy and “Harry Similiar age LOOKS. NO DOT Connection
    Google dearcj Avert and Slbia Iowa Only approx 7 Mile Drive. Knoxville 35. Kansas City 3hrs Out. Tho KSB again had Trained “Recruiter

  275. Russ Heiser says:

    Find LOTS of “Circles” Per Say No LINES to Connect

    Interesting Murder Victim Murphy Mussising From Knoxville Iowa Hospital GENERAL INFO ONLY 20 July 20 1984 Body Found Nov 1984 Rapid Decomp what gathered

    Intrest Kansas City Butcher(KSB) actually Called Police and went to HOSPITAL as Victim BIT his Penis. No Charges FILED. Murphy was at or NEAR Knoxville Hospital before Missing. May be Ave to Connect “Dots” if ANY. KSB Operating IOWA 1984?

    Saw Mulligan(Mark) Mention Paper Published Ticket to Harry 17 July 1984 HO Specifics. News Probally had LAG between Issue and Printing Such incigence.

    Would be Sleiths LOTS Vids on KSB(Deceased)

    KSB also had “Recruiter for VICTIMS. Doesnt Mention SO FAR his Recruitment Area(s)
    MO Drinks and Drug Victims “Haul Away” Lots Digging by LE Co Op KS MS and Iowa.

    Its There for LE to Check

    Apparently Being “Gay” was NOT a Requirement of KSB Victims. But could have Increased % of Target.

  276. IDChannelSlueth says:

    Looking from the outside. I would investigate and question the husband and the Police again. This doesn’t seem right. I moved away from Iowa going on 34 years ago. To read about all of these unsolved cases really hurts that they are not solved. Please get some closure for all of these families. For my friend JoJo and his family too. RIP JoJo

  277. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    A terrible story and all these people kept their mouth’s shut. But, then I would expect the authorities to conduct a death investigation, until a competent medical examiner determined there was no foul play in his death.

    Then we have his son committ suicide because these gutless individuals stood by and never came forward

    I would sue them, for obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, and throw on pain and suffering. Hit them in the pocket books. That include the campground.

  278. Mark says:

    So why hasn’t the female driver been identified?

  279. Russ Heiser says:

    “Murphy” same Age te Knoxvillr Iowa Missing 29 July 1984 Body Found Nov 84 by Hunters 35 Miles approx from AVery Iowa

    Murphy it says Hospital’ last KNOWN Interest did “KSB” Visit Hospital?

    Once again SURE Iowa LE Working. Some Areas if Havent Corrlated SIMILARITIES

  280. Riss Heiser says:

    Note ONLY

    REASON “Perked” my INTREST this CASE

    KNOWN as OPERATIVE Word ALL KNOWN VICTIMS Kansas City Butcher bwlive 18-21 Age

    “Howell” 1sr KNOWN Similiar Apperance “Harry” Same TIME Frame in “Striking Distance” General Sense

    The Butcher Died Heart Attack

    Did not MENTION any YOUNG TEEN Victims age range Newsboys

    informative videos kansas city butcher You Tube

    From General INVESTIGATIVE POINT “Only Suggestive” this POINT. Lot Leg Wprk per SAY

    Nip in BUD? (Maybe) ANY UNIDENTIFIED DNA LEFT “KSB” House or Vehicle?

  281. Russ Heiser says:

    Was “Harry” Gay/?

    NO Connecuion FOUND but May Check Out

    FIRST……KNOWN Victim of Kansas City Butcher July 1984 about 3hrs away.

    KSB in Kansas City 3hrs Out

    1st Victom “Howell 19 White Male 6 others Known.

    NO “Dot” to Newspaper Boys. But PERKED My Intrest

    Victims DISAPPEARED “Litterally KNOWN START July 1984

    THIS POINT SIMILIAR Time Frame Occurance

  282. Russ Heiser says:

    Side Note

    Harrys Car Very NICE in Photos

    Probally worth more Couple Hundred $ 1984

    You Mentioned Drugs MAY(may have) NOT KNOWN

    Being COP Someone “JazziN” for Dope CAR may look like Big Baggie. Steal? Pre Planned or KNEW where or Who to FENCE. Strip Down takes KNOWN Time. Farm Country Obvious Many Corn Stalks Park Behind Per Say

    Friends Avoiding? Originally at LEAST Spoke with LE? I Imagine Hammered so MANY TIMES “Tell Us what you Know” Domt want Anymore Unless Interrogated. Most Likely SEEMS would WANT to HELP. I imagine Small Town approached MANY

    TIMES. May USE Approach MAKE STATEMENT ask Paper to Indicate shouldnt be

    Bothered Anymore Unless New Evidence Shows Up to Implicate

    The Car? Looks to NICE to DUMP Unless Heated Spur Moment Even then more $ Signs than Few $ Piker game.

    Curious may ask to SEE Military Jacket Nip that in Bud

    Clpse? Harry INDICATE Dug deal Issues? Other than SO and SI dies This or that?

    Not INTO more Questions than ANSWERS

    thx
    Your Cop you have training and background to follow thru Ill LEAVE it ar that.

  283. Russ Heiser says:

    Side Note

    Harrys Car Very NICE in Photos

    Probally worth more Couple Hundred $ 1984

    You Mentioned Drugs MAY(may have) NOT KNOWN

    Being COP Someone “JazziN” for Dope CAR may look like Big Baggie. Steal? Pre Planned or KNEW where or Who to FENCE. Strip Down takes KNOWN Time. Farm Country Obvious Many Corn Stalks Park Behind Per Say

    Friends Avoiding? Originally at LEAST Spoke with LE? I Imagine Hammered so MANY TIMES “Tell Us what you Know” Domt want Anymore Unless Interrogated. Most Likely SEEMS would WANT to HELP. I imagine Small Town approached MANY

    TIMES. May USE Approach MAKE STATEMENT ask Paper to Indicate shouldnt be

    Bothered Anymore Unless New Evidence Shows Up to Implicate

    The Car? Looks to NICE to DUMP Unless Heated Spur Moment Even then more $ Signs than Few $ Piker game.

    Curious may ask to SEE Military Jacket Nip that in Bud

    Clpse? Harry INDICATE Dug deal Issues? Other than SO and SI dies This or that?

    Not INTO more Questions than ANSWERS
    Your Cop you have training and background to follow thru Ill LEAVE it ar that.

  284. Russ Heiser says:

    Former Military Police Investigative Supervisor Atmy Former PI Agency Manager Offices Miami New Orleans and Wash DC

    What “Grabbed” My Attention……..Very Close to Brother. No Calls or Hangups Even time Diapperance?. Unlless Wanted to Disappear. Hang Ups could be Indication Wanted to Reach Out……No Contact may Indicate didnt want FAMILY in Trouble WOULD Seem have rto be BIG Issue this Many YEARS.

    2nd What was MOS and Rank.

    Military SOMETMES Don’t Willingly REVEAL actual “Duties” own Reasons UNLESS
    Nudged. Shipped to Timbuck Too Per Say.

    1984 Dog Tags were Big Issue Still. So if harry Found?(without) Indication Pre Planned
    Someone knew had monies to “play”

    Foul Play Car Obvious Bigger harder average person ri HIDE Spur Moment Most KNOW Lakes FAST. Pre Planned READ Cases not ONLY Grave Pre Dug but Car Burried especially FARM Country

    Same Farmers in area Many YEARS ago but may REPORTED Farm Tractor Founf MOVED or Stolen

    I Could Go On, Originally intended Simple Comment.

    My You Tube is NOT MONOTISED nor LOOKING to.

    You SEE Harry WEARING Regular? If HARRY Found should be ONSIGHT. Local Metal Detecting Ckub? Or Even National Up to Challenge?

    If Found with Dog Tags. Indicate Possiable “Heat of Moment” Incident, Other words. Grab Money and Run.

    Use to Operate FBI NCIC on CASES Stolen Property. Shoulf have been Entered.

    Would ALSO say MANY People as Previous Comments indicate have RAN into Lakes Drinking or NOT. If Not Driven ino Such.

    Again Dog Tags Missing Usually Worn. Possiable FOUL Play.

    Money Flowing at Table Suspected Wow. Seems LOCAL LE wpold have mote INTENSE Investgation ar Time REPORTED

    Some Cases “Perk” my Intrest from READING. Use to have PI License 7 States Civil and Criminal. No Longer.

  285. Lee-Anne says:

    Is there a possibility that this is Harry Milligan from Albia, Iowa missing since 1984.

  286. Larry Brim says:

    Your information is not entirely correct. Lose enough that it doesn’t matter.. If only someone had any information, maybe they don’t feel its relevant but anything helps.
    Our family is still in pain although we have tried to move on with our lives as she would have wanted. There is still a $30000 car reward to info leading to conviction. We have tried to keep our name out of the news for the younger members of family but contact sheriff. Thank You to whoever posted this, it is much kinder than the last person with all the false info.

  287. Colton Reed says:

    I’m his youngest half brother I miss my big brother dearly I would give my life to bring him back if I could just to heal the pain that other family members have from losing him tears fall from my face time to time when I see his picture remembering all the great times we had as kids growing up together until he left us in 98′ I was only 8 and a half years old this leaves me post dramatically stressed for the rest of my life I pray to see my big brother again some day in heaven to the rest of the family I love you all I’m lost for words! 😭

  288. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    In regards to checking the VIN on his vehicle, a Carfax report might show something. The other option is for a law enforcement agency to contact the National Insurance Crime Bureau. They might have more detailed information in their databases, that might shed some light on the vehicles history.

  289. Mark says:

    There is alot more information and comments on there recent face book page for Harry Milligan. Just if anyone has not had questions answered as some of them are answered there.

  290. MikeD says:

    I wish there was more information available about this one. Story county is where Iowa State University is located and this infant was found right around the time that would have been spring break. You don’t have to drive very far outside of Ames to be in a rural area. It reminds of Unidentified Baby John Doe 1992 that was found during the holiday break near where the University of Iowa is.

    I also wonder if they happen to have a DNA sample and if not was the infant buried or cremated. More unidentified infants should be run through familial DNA databases.

  291. Bridgette Suzanne Ebersohl says:

    Come on there so much technology today why are they not working on these cold case I know his daughter stacy personally I was hanging around stacy at about the same time he went missing … Now mind you I know at least two of the people involved the 3rd person I’ve heard he’s really bad news I’m a person that believes in a eye for an eye I so hope they all get caught and they get what’s coming to them MAY U REST IN PEACE TERRY

  292. Bridgette Suzanne Ebersohl says:

    With the new technology they have using to solve murders …. Also the didn’t report if that precious baby was male or female and if it was found alive

  293. Anonymous555 says:

    the black and white pic of the older guy above looks like Charlie Kerr (google “Charlie Kerr Iowa” for mor pics)

    https://www.newspapers.com/clip/26824016/charlie-kerr-photo-1988/

  294. MikeD says:

    All states have Safe Haven laws now, but none of them did in 1992. Iowa didn’t have its Safe Haven law until 2002 so it wasn’t an option for the mother in this situation, unfortunately.

    • Q says:

      She had other options like giving the baby up for adoption.
      There is NO reason to Murder a baby but I’m sure you were not trying to make excuses for her.
      So sad that a child had to loose his life because of a women’s selfishness!
      I hope she hears his cry’s for the rest of her life!

  295. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Just recently the Cook County Sheriff’s Police identified the mother of two babies born at her residence in 2003. She had placed them in a bag to take to the hospital. Then she dumped them in a garbage can, where they were dead.

    Most states have the Safe Haven laws, but how many of them don’t know about them. They are advertised when these situations occur, but if you don’t hear about them in certain media, then it is not an option.

  296. Travis White says:

    Does anyone know if they ever ruled out her being the skeletal remains found in Des Moines in 1980? Seems like the timeframe and location is pretty close.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1209ufia.html

  297. Janis Dyson says:

    There was a safe Haven Law passed so that if a baby was taken to a hospital, church, etc. and left there the baby wouldn’t be considered abandoned. Why not give the child up for adoption? There is no reason for a baby to die if the parents don’t want the baby. Forget about all your theories about the mother, that is just plain stupid. Run the DNA and see where it leads this to.

  298. Janis Dyson says:

    There was a safe Haven Law passed so that if a baby was taken to a hospital, church, etc. and left there the baby wouldn’t be considered abandoned. Why not give the child up for adoption? There is no reason for a baby to die if the parents don’t want the baby.

  299. Lori D Evans says:

    car/body have been found, front windshiel missing, body in back seat, car not discovered in 2013 by the dive teams but visible on google earth satellite view. has there been any further reports put out from the medical examiner about cause of death? i can’t find any search results on that.### was he trying to get out of the car and broke the window then fell into the back seat? was he not alone, passed out in the back seat and someone else was driving and broke the window out to escape after driving into the pond? was he unconscious in the car and it was driven into the pond by someone else? Has anything been discovered about “HOW” the car got into the pond in that location based on where the party was on the property?

    • Ash says:

      I had read that the car being visible from google earth was false. It’d be crazy if it was true though!

    • Scott Peaker says:

      It has been a year since the car and remains were discovered. Is there any news regarding cause of death?

      • Ash says:

        His car and remains were just discovered 3 months ago. As far as I know they have not released a cause of death yet. I check every so often so and haven’t in the last few weeks so that very well could have changed.

        • MikeD says:

          I’m curious to know, but I’ve seen similar cases where we never hear anything probably because it was determined to be a suicide and the family decides to remain silent about it. I don’t think we’ll hear much unless there was foul play.

  300. Wanda says:

    Sgt. Mark Milligan: After reading your entire post & seeing that you have uncovered a “Vehicle Ticket” of your brother’s Harry’s car 17 days after his disappearance, tells me that someone had his car, probably even his ID, maybe his wallet. If you had known about the ticket early on, I’m sure the Officer could’ve contributed more. As far as some of his buddy’s not speaking to you, speaks volumes. Those are the ones who need to be pulled in & questioned! As far as the rumors, made up stories, etc., welcome to the world of murdered loved ones with worthless weirdos trying to insert themselves into cases. Someone had your brothers vehicle, possibly even his body & was caught with the headlamps not turned on & got pulled over. Is there a data base where you can put in the VIN # to that car from the old Title or registration papers?

    • John says:

      Looks later that he was pulled over around 9pm that night and may have gotten thr tickect then. It takes the 2 or 3 weeks for it to hit the newspaper is where they got the later date and not the ticket. Could still have been the same night as never found the ticket for time of day.

  301. Otis Driftwood says:

    Lee Andre died this past Friday. Unfortunately, he likely took the truth about Alice with him.

    • Hieronymous Bosch says:

      I won’t say that I knew Lee Andre, but I ran into him from time to time. I used to encounter him regularly at the grocery store, he would be using a scooter and have his dog with him, and would engage people in lengthy conversations about all manner of topics, from which it was very difficult to extricate oneself.

      I assumed he was a harmless old guy, probably lonely, with plenty of life experiences to share. And perhaps he was harmless, but discovering the story of Alice Van Alstine was an eye-opener. I used to imagine the next time I would run into him, I would ask if he wanted to get together to talk about his life, and see if the conversation would land on this topic.

      • Patrick Kerrigan says:

        Harry, nice of you to join the investigation. Maybe you get a few other retired LAPD detectives to assist on this case
        Maybe Chief Irving is available.

      • Otis Driftwood says:

        I also had occasion to talk with Lee numerous times over the years. Hours of conversation. You description of him is spot on. The dog you mentioned was named Princess Patti. It was very tough to ascertain where the truth ended and the fantasy began with Lee’s stories. He did, on a couple of occasions, tell me that Alice had been “an FBI informant” who had run off with her handler, and was still alive under an assumed name. Of course, I don’t believe that. My suspicion is that Lee took Alice that night, either over child custody, her having been interviewed by law enforcement, or both. As for what Lee did with her, I doubt we’ll ever know. What I found very interesting, is the fantasy Lee built around Alice’s disappearance. In my experience, only guilty people concoct such stories.

        • Jody Ewing says:

          Otis, I tend to agree with you regarding those who concoct such stories. The “she ran off with another man” narrative is a timeworn pretense. We’ve got several of them on this website.

          I also agree that he took his secret to the grave. Victims’ family members — the ones who usually know who killed their loved one — always hope and pray the offender will make a deathbed confession, and that’s rarely the case. I’ve yet to see that happen with any of our cases where everyone knew who was responsible. Thanks so much for the alert on Andre’s death.

  302. KK says:

    I would be interested to hear more information about what happened to Eugene Behrend of Millville. He died of a single gunshot wound to the chest in 1994 and going through Clayton County Register Archives, it appears there were suits between immediate family members that talked about threatening each other and other harmful behavior. It had been rumored in the area that a close family member (or person hired by a family member) had shot him over some sort of disagreement, which by the looks of it may have been related to land or a family farm. A grand jury met in 1995 and did not indict anyone on the murder charge.

  303. Christina says:

    Crpd did not do their job… I witnessed this shooting and still have ptsd and have NEVER been interviewed despite my effort to talk to the police the day it happened.

  304. Dick Jugel says:

    Here is an undated article, probably from the Omaha World Herald, that I found being used as a bookmark while browsing through a 1902 printing of an 1898 copyrighted book entitled “The Traction Engine” by James. H. Maggard, revised and enlarged by an expert engineer:

    BODY IN RAIL CAR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED
    Council Bluffs Bureau

    Authorities have learned the identity of a man whose body was found in a railroad car in Carter Lake in June.

    The dead man was Humberto Cortez, 31, a Mexican transient, according to Bob Henderson, the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation agent in charge.

    Henderson said Tuesday that the identification was made by the California Justice Department, one of the many agencies that was sent fingerprints taken from the body.

    “He had a rather extensive criminal record and had been returned to Mexico by our authorities more than once — the last time being last March,” Henderson said.

    He said the man’s record included minor crimes such as trespassing and petty theft. There were no arrests on drug or alcohol charges, Henderson said.

    The body was found June 21 in an open steel-carrying rail car in the Pasxton & Vierling Steel Co. yard.

  305. Mujahed says:

    WHAT HAPPEND TO ABDI SHARIFF

  306. UrMOm69 says:

    This wouldn’t have happened to me. I’m built different.

  307. Tyler Gardner says:

    I did it. Cold blooded.

  308. Mr. Dubbie says:

    He got 360 noscoped. Cheeks clapped kid

  309. Caylene says:

    Harry Milligan’s search actually has a Facebook group now. A lot of people in the Albia/Monroe County area want to bring him home.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/harrymilligan

  310. Dan Morgan says:

    The Scene of the Crime podcasts on this case are very informative – thank you for this Mike!

  311. MikeD says:

    I’m on board with the theory that he had an accident and since he had been drinking he got spooked and abandoned the vehicle in order to try to avoid a drunk driving charge. If he died of hyperthermia within a 4 to 5 mile radius of the vehicle you’d think he would have been found. Chances are he had warm clothes and experience with surviving in the cold, so maybe he was prepared for the walk home. Since he was already 2 miles outside of Scarville it was only around a 6 mile walk to Lake Mills.

    I’m pretty sure bar closing times were 2 am in Iowa back in 1993, so maybe it’s possible someone else from the bar driving home saw him and picked him up and something happened after that. I’m leaning more towards the possibility that he was hit and killed by a vehicle while attempting to walk home and the person covered it up and never came forward.

  312. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I wonder if the police ever recovered any fingerprints from the crime scene. It would be interesting to check the case report and see if they found prints.

    The offender most likely is deceased. But, if he committed other crimes, his prints might be in the system. Also, his place is sort off the beaten track in a way, but on a U.S Highwsy.

    It would be a long shot. Also, there is mo mention of the caliber of the firearm that he was shot with. I assume the offenders weapon, was most likely a revolver, since there is no mention of a shell casing.

  313. W anon says:

    The homeless clan claims yet another victim

  314. Don Eveland says:

    I’m interested in possible connections in the Eckels family, as my great Grandmother was a Eckels from Lenox.

  315. MikeD says:

    I know a lot of people focus on Lyric’s mother and father because of their drug history, but some people were focused more on where the girls were found: Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. It’s a niche sort of area that only has locals going to it for hunting, fishing, and seasonal morel mushroom hunting. It’s not the kind of place that many people even know about. Morel Mushroom season ends around the end of May. The girls went missing on July 13. Hardly anyone would be walking around that area much until the start of the deer hunting season. When does deer hunting usually start? December 5th. What day were the girls found? December 5th. Either it was someone who was naive to the idea that hunters would be in the area and would probably find the girls or it was someone who knew and wanted the girls to be found during hunting season.

  316. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I came across a posting on Redditt, in regards to Joyce’s murder. It appears the grandson of the individual, who supposedly found her about 3,000 yards from their family home.

    This individual was seeking more information on her case. If anyone is on that site can ask him or her that her case is posted on Iowa Cold Cases. I don’t think he or she can add more information. But they could mention what they heard from their family member.

  317. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Nothing like following up on my comments of sorts. But, I checked a road atlas see where Grimes, Iowa was. It caught my eye that it was near Camp Dodge.

    I seem to remember either a case or comment on a case related to Camp Dodge. So, if anyone can remember please share it.

    I still come back to the bonds, as a possible motive for her disappearance. Someone locally knew about the bonds and most likely kidnapped her to get access to the money. Then she was of no use, so kill her and dump the body in the reservoir, that was still under construction.

    So, there is someone she might have confided in, that all of a sudden left the area. They might have moved to another part of the state , country and said that they came into some money.

    Possibly through an inheritance.

    A number of years ago, an Aldrich Ames, who worked the Russian Section of the CIA, gave them all the names of the sources in Russia.

    Mr. Ames, was living beyond his means for years and the CIA somehow never noticed. Until a Russian defector provided his name. Then all of a sudden the CIA, did some checking and was surprised.

  318. Bothered By This says:

    First off, apologies that anyone would ever have to deal with this, truly sad and undeserving. There is info out there, but it’s completely unsafe to share and believed that this was not the ‘only one’ committed by this group and or man of the group. A possible reason that no subjects have ever been brought up is that it was covered up by another county and so random that they knew they could get away with it. In the late 70’s through the mid 80’s there was LE working for the ‘bad guys’ and vice versa. Also believed that this was definitely not the only crime committed by these guys. Drug & violence fueled wannabe hitman, debt collector types and afraid that Michael was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Have tried reaching out ‘netwise’ to different types of LE over the years, with little interest shown and really can’t trust any of them that are still around from that era, it’s sad and bothersome.

    It’s probably difficult to link some of these unsolved crimes being how different they can be, but that’s the hidden twist, and possibly done all over Iowa and the Southern part of another state. Can give no clues due to safety. I respect this site and what it has done, but it can feel a little public and seen some unsafe info shared before. Some of these crime committing guys from those decades have tucked away and lived life like nothing happened, but still are dangerous and or who they know. Very unsafe feeling world at times and wish that it didn’t exist, bothersome. This young man and his family did not deserve this, nobody does!

    Bless the Carr family, R.I.P. young man, sir.

  319. craig says:

    hey its Sara’s friend here and she is alive and well not dead

  320. SEAN says:

    I think his brother is probably on to the reasons he went missing however is it possible nothing nefarious happened and he accidently drove into a lake and submerged? Looking at the route to his house I see a small pond on a curve near 165th St and 67 2nd Ave. Is the pond deep enough to hide a car?

  321. Deb says:

    Whatever happened to Pastor Kelly! My mother was raised in Villisca and her brother-i-law was a private detective from the railroad on the case. My mother is no longer living nor any of her family that I can inquire with.

    I heard that dogs had tracked the murderer to the river and lost the scent!

  322. linda says:

    I believe the lady that owned the home to Dan Heiber had something to do with this.

  323. Ash says:

    Are they going to be investigating his death or do they know pretty well what happened?

  324. Laura Heinisch says:

    looking for information on a cold case involving the name Hollingsworth. Supposedly the neighbor was a suspect. Happened a long time ago, the people would be over 100 years old today.

  325. Melanie W says:

    This is a very strange case. I believe that “Munchausen Syndrome” was passed down rather than Helen killing her siblings. Or she was traumatized by her siblings natural deaths. But that many doesn’t seem natural to me. And it doesn’t seem like the grandmother raised any alarm bells for her grandchildren’s deaths. So tragic and evil. Just think. Helen’s daughters would be in their 40’s now. One would have been turning 51 in a few days. So strange all the girls died, But one son survived.

  326. Carole Ann Kelderman says:

    I remember when this happened as I worked in Albia at the time. I often wondered about water. I have recently been binge watching a YouTube channel called Adventures With Purpose. I am not tech savvy, but I wonder if someone here can bring this to their attention? They specialize in underwater vehicle recovery, and recently brought up the car and remains of Ethan K. in Hampton, Iowa, bringing some resolution to a tragic case that had remained unsolved for decades. If there is any reason to believe the car is in water, we need to talk with them. They refer to “open source investigations” where we can share ideas, but I am not sure what that means or where to find it. I am asking if anyone here can help hook AWP up with this case if you believe it is a possibility Harry may be in the water somewhere. Thank you. I am so sorry for the loss this family has had to deal with.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Carol, that is a great idea, since the car is missing also. Their are a large number of missing person cases where the vehicle they owned or were driving is missing. Also, a number of these cases have been resolved by finding the vehicle in a body of water.

      About a year or two ago, a surveyor was looking at a Google Earth image of an area of Florida. On the image he saw what CV looked like a yellow in color vehicle in a man made Lake. Ne notified authorities and they recovered the car and closed a missing persons case.

    • Michael says:

      I think a simple answer would be a drunk driving accident?,how messed up was he that night?,did he simply drive into a lake or pond and drown?,maybe that’s why nobody knows anything? new to this site and just throwing it out there,I mean c’mon someone should have talked by now?

    • Darlene says:

      Carol Mark has them involved they have searched a few places of interest. Will continue until we have answers.

  327. Pamela S Scott says:

    19 Years later Douglas brother Joshua Meth has turned up dead. They have ruled a sueside . Nothing adds ups. None of the paper matches and this is my second who has died in this town. I have reason to believe that there is more. No one would let me see Josh’s body.

  328. Meaghan Pike says:

    The Auction company should be a place to really scope out. I used to date the owner’s son who is in prison now, and would work for his Dad when we dated to help set up auctions and help them run and pack up. At that point in time, I was a drug addict and all the help he hired to help at auctions were troubled people that were paid under the table. I also live in Stuart and have of course heard the gossip and the names people suspected. Since gossip is always a mixed bag of credible and not credible, you listen but don’t believe everything you hear. But all the names mentioned around town were people that had worked for the auction house, and their acquaintances. I hope they find Kay, and the killer/killers and give the family a small measure of justice.

  329. After reading the article and comments, the only thing that stood out was ” he didn’t take his dog with him, because his dog would probably have ended up shot too, because that dog wouldn’t let nothing happen to him.” Hathaway basically let the cat out of the bag with that comment. He’s the one doing all the talking, was a good friend of Kenny, and was going to a trade school to become a motorcycle mechanic. In 3 very short weeks after going to AZ, he gets a call that Kenny is missing. Hathaway is very quick to point the finger at different people and accuse of knowing what happened: Mikey Bush, his ex-wife and Hammerhead. For being a good friend of Kenny, I would think he’d have more to say about him versus everyone else he seems to know everything about. If it weren’t for Hathaway talking, there would be no article as shown above. Occum’s razor.

  330. Andrew says:

    Were there any water searches done at the time? Searching around the various Missouri River boat ramps in Sioux City for her Honda Accord would probably be a good start. Google Maps shows one less than 12 minutes away from the home, but there are others. She might have left earlier than her husband thinks. Considering she left without her purse, she might have planned to end her life by driving into the river. She may have driven down a boat ramp while it was still dark out, turned off the car lights, and drove into the water without being noticed. This would be a good one for the Adventures with Purpose guys to check out. I know they did some work in the Missouri River before.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Andrew, it appears a search was done at the.boat ramp. However, there might be other ways a vehicle could have entered the river or another body of water. However, the fact that her SS Death Index, is the day before she disappeared is odd. It could be a typo by whoever’s entered it.

      The mention of an unknown medical condition also plays a part in her disappearance. We don’t know if she had any mental health issues.

      Also, we have the young man, who sees the ghost of a older woman in the kitchen, is weird. I guess the family has learned to love with her.

      • Andrew says:

        A friend of mine had a similar thing happen in her family. It turned out her grandma received a brain cancer diagnosis a couple of days prior to her disappearance. She was found in a lake near her childhood home and no notes were left. Maybe it’s possible that Helen had some sort of medical condition that worsened and she decided to not let it win.

        A lot of times these underwater searches that were done previously weren’t successful because the technology wasn’t as good. Very similar to how old DNA testing techniques weren’t as good. It would be good to check again.

      • Barb says:

        If her husband last saw her the day before she disappeared may be why they use that date. He was only assuming she left around 7 or 8 a.m. But if he last laid eyes on her when they went to bed. Would have been the day before she was discovered missing.

    • Laura Benson says:

      Andrew, Adventures with Purpose is planning to be in Sioux City mid January to look into this and two other cold cases!

  331. Tim says:

    I think Jason Carter killed his mother he needs to be in prison for the rest of his life

  332. SB Hurst says:

    So does Adventures with a Purpose get the reward since they found car and remains. They deserve it

    • Paul says:

      They should but somehow the reward disappeared

      Someone is a welcher

    • SH says:

      Our official response at this time…

      We would be honored to accept the $100,000 Reward so we can further our efforts in helping other families like Ethan’s.

      However, the $100,000 Reward which has been renewed annually every September at the anniversary of Ethan missing, and extended yearly beyond its original 2015 effective date, is suddenly no longer available from the anonymous donors claiming the reward expired in 2015 even though it has been confirmed by multiple News Stations as late as September 2020 that the reward was still in effect.

      In full transparency, Ethan’s family was kind in making a smaller donation of their own. We appreciate their gratitude for our efforts in bringing Ethan home.

      Donations and rewards are how we are able to fund our operations in helping families such as Ethan’s.

      We do hope that those donors involved will honor their commitment so that we can use the $100,000 reward to purchase additional gear and continue our efforts in helping other families in locating their lost loved ones.

      Thank you to each and every one of you for your support.
      -Jared

      • CSJ says:

        HAMPTON, Iowa —
        The Hampton Police Department wants to remind Iowans that it has been nearly seven years since Ethan Kazmerzak went missing, and a reward for his safe return still stands.

        Kazmerzak would now be 29 years old. He went missing sometime in the early morning hours on Sept. 15, 2013.

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        Police said at the time Ethan went missing, he had dark blond hair, had a beard, wears glasses, and has a Grateful Dead tattoo on his upper left arm. He was last seen wearing peach/orange colored shorts and a white/teal printed shirt. He was driving a silver 2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI with Iowa license plate AUZ382. The car and Ethan still are missing.

        There is still a $100,000 reward offered for any relevant and useful information that leads to the current location and/or safe return of Ethan Kazmerzak. Police said the reward has been pooled together by a group of anonymous donors.

        Anyone with information is asked to call North Iowa Crime Stoppers at 1-800-383-0088or the Hampton Police Department at 1-641-456-2529.

  333. M Palmer says:

    Interestingly detectives are hoping advances in DNA technology will solve her case. They think there’s a small amount of degraded DNA from her killer under her fingernails. However, they’re concerned this will be the last opportunity as they fear it’ll be used up if they do it now.

  334. Mike Morford says:

    The Scene of the Crime podcast, S2 EP 3 ‘The Investigation Continues’ is out now diving further into the murders of Roger & Rose! This episode covers the extensive investigation that extended into multiple states as detectives tracked down everyone at the hotel that night. We look at a mysterious phone call that came in for the room registered to “Burkert.” Investigators begin to retrace Roger and Rose’s steps in the days leading up to the murders.

    https://www.spreaker.com/…/scene-of-the-crime-season-2…

  335. Ashley says:

    What is the person name the vehicle was owned by that vanished? Im sure they may have resurfaced?

    • MIkeD says:

      Some articles are saying they believe it to be his car and some flat out say that it is his car that was found. No word yet if there are remains inside of it, but I imagine the chances are pretty high.

    • Kris says:

      Confirmed there are human remains in the car

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      It would be interesting if this is the same pond, he was last seen. He would have been right under everyone’s nose. However, there have been a number of missing people who have been found in their vehicles in various bodies of water around the country.

      The problem is the cost of using side scanning sonar, or dive teams to search all the bodies of water. If we were able to repurpose the various tools we used to search for submarines would be useful.

      I served on a submarine, and know what we had as search tools.

  336. Wanda says:

    Yes, it was Stevie’s foot, absolutely.

  337. Downs says:

    Here are some random questions I have on this case.

    1. Were there any bonuses or commissions Marketing Coordinators at Mediacom could receive at the time? I’ve seen situations where someone was killed because another person in the company felt like they stole their commission.

    2. How many friends did he have in Iowa? Were they mostly work friends?

    3. Was he seeing anyone romantically or any evidence that he was? If so, maybe someone else was unhappy about that.

    4. What was his personality like? Was he the type of guy who picked on people in high school? The pictures make him look like a stereotypical “bro” at the time. I’m wondering if he could have just maybe bothered the wrong person.

    5. Did he have an active social life? Was he going out to bars and clubs in Des Moines?

    6. What club did he work at in Las Vegas? What was his reason for leaving that job and moving to Minneapolis? What did he do in Minneapolis? How did he get the Mediacom position in Iowa? Did he move because of the job or did he move first and then find work? I’m just wondering if he burned some bridges along the way.

  338. James Farrell says:

    I wonder if the original people that reserved the room might have been the intended targets?

  339. I am a retired police officer and SVU detective, investigating a cold case homicide in Nashville, Tennessee, from 1969. I am following all leads in my case and have a person-of-interest in-common with my case and Janice’s case. I am not able to release the suspect’s name, but he was in Des Moines at the time of Janice’s disappearance.

    I am seeking information on Janice, and would like to talk to anyone willing to talk to me.

    My website is http://www.stevendavidlampley.com and my email is steven@stevendavidlampley.com

    Thank you in advance.
    Steven

  340. John Nieto says:

    I honestly read Trifles before i read the article. It was more gruesome than i had anticipated in regards to how Hossack and his analog were murdered. Both are awful ways to die but the way trifles was written had an air of suspense to it.

  341. Mike Morford says:

    S2 EP2 of Scene of the Crime is out now. In ‘Crime Scene Investigation’ we take a look at the hotel room crime scene, and the evidence that was found in Room 260. We address some theories of how the killer, or killers, accessed the room, and retrace the steps of the investigators as they notify Roger and Rose’s next of kin.

    https://www.spreaker.com/…/scene-of-the-crime-season-2…

  342. Lisa Baber says:

    Married to Rose, not made to Rose.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Lisa, thanks for the information on his family. I would assume that maybe his being crazy, might have been related to his military service. If it is correct that he served in the Marines during WW Ii, he definitely was exposed to combat.

      Many men who served in combat suffered what used to be called combat fatigue. Also, they refer to many Marines, who served on some of the islands of having the thousand yard stare.

      My late father spent 18 months in combat, was wounded once, knocked unconscious at least three times fighting in Italy and Southern France.

      He got a disability for his mental injuries. He later volunteered at the VA, along with my mother. I volunteered at the same VA which led to a job.

      It was the same VA he spent time for cancer in the late 1950’s.

  343. Lisa Baber says:

    The John Johnson that you have pictured was crazy for many years he had many children he was made to my aunt rose Thomas. His children’s names were Johnny Johnson Chrissy Johnson Roseanne Johnson David Johnson and Jerome Johnson. He and rose also had a little girl named Christina before all of those kids. Rosen John joined the pentacostal church and they did not believe in doctors so they let four-year-old Christina die. I think all of the remaining children turned out to use drugs such as LSD and heroin.They constantly commit crimes got arrested moved and changed sexual partners weekly. John and rose raised their children in such a filthy trash filled house that it should have been condemned. Rose had one sister that would still be young enough to answer your questions. Her name is TrudyThomas she married David Goodman who killed himself and I don’t know who she married after that Rose has one more sister still alive named Bonnie Viola Garland who lives in Altoona Iowa. I cannot leave any information if you want me to be respectful because Johnnie Johnson was not a respectful person however he did have The Bible memorised backwards and forwards. John and Rose never worked. They were the opitame of lazy, crazy.

  344. Tabby says:

    I remember this night and have followed the case through the years. He wasn’t much younger than me. My ex called me that night he was a truck driver, he wanted to know what was going on why the interstate was blocked off and they weren’t moving; obviously at the time I couldn’t give him info because they hadn’t even put anything out on the news . I don’t want to speculate about anything I’ve just always thought the girlfriend had to have known more. I feel for his parents to this day and I hope they get closure. It can’t bring him back, but some one paying for what they did would be some closure. I pray for you and that some one will come forward with more information. People are still out here thinking about that night and about your family. Don’t ever give up.

  345. Jim says:

    Kimberly’s father, Jacque T Ratliff died on Jan 2, 2020. I’m surprised this info was missed here.
    https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/sd/rapid-city/jacque-thomas-ratliff-10223206

    Perhaps that’s why they arrested his son Matthew today for her murder. These two seemed to be the ones going after Les most vehemently.

    • matthew c ratliff says:

      they did not arrest me they arrested less’s son matt dont talk what you dont know

      • Jody Ewing says:

        Matthew, I was unaware that your father passed earlier this year, and am so very sorry for your loss. Your dad was so passionate about seeing Kim’s case solved, and it breaks my heart that he’s not here to see what is happening. Please give my best to Paula and your brother Jeff, and I wish all of you strength as more of this story unfolds. Take care, and God bless. Jody at ICC

        • matthew c ratliff says:

          They extradited Matt back To Council Bluffs And booked him onto jail on a $1.000,000 bond i am glad that they had the leads to get him

    • Cabe lan says:

      Jim you fuckin idiot try a reading comprehension course

      • jim says:

        You are absolutely correct, Cabe. I got the names confused and for that I am offering my humblest apologies to Matt. I often get stories confused when many pronouns are used. Compound that with the fact there are two “Matt’s ” involved and you can imagine how my error rate can increase.

        As to Matt’s other message involving “Jim Ratliff’s” arrest, I posted that to see if there was any relation (which there was not) and because a “Jim Ratcliffe” posted comments angering Matt. Jacque in French is our English pronunciation of Jim and I couldn’t understand why Matt’s father would have been arrested??? I promise to be more vigilant with my future commenting.

        Finally THANK YOU to Jody for this site and which I believe were/are instrumental in forcing this case to its hopeful conclusion. Well done.

        • Jody Ewing says:

          Jim, thank you for your thoughtful comment, and I also must apologize for some of the confusion here. This case summary has grown over the years (though is still a very condensed version), and now, with the arrests of Matt Kennedy and then Les Kennedy (and those who may have been unaware of the “two Matts”), I can certainly understand how the pronouns could get confusing.

          I’ve gone back through and tried to clarify any misconceptions by adding more first names. Still, even with an arrest in this case (it was one of the top two cases on this website that I felt could have been solved/prosecuted years ago) I don’t yet feel any sense of relief or closure. There are just so many victims tied to this one case, including both Matts. (Yes, the accused can also be a victim.) So many lives ruined. Forever altered. Lives that continued to be scarred after Kim’s murder.

          “Jake” asked in April 2019 why we couldn’t just post the “who, what, when, where and why?” on here, but we cannot do that even when we know the answers. It compromises cases, and there’s always the possibility that the info we received simply isn’t true. Jake was correct, however, when he said maybe we (ICC) had the resources to get in touch with someone who could help solve this case. I may have passed along info to investigators, but will never take credit for solving this (or any other) case b/c LE officials almost always know who is responsible and they’re the ones knocking on doors and questioning suspects and submitting the DNA and spending years and/or decades piecing together every puzzle piece. And, what they always say remains timelessly true: “Knowing who did it and being able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law are two very different things.”

          They only get that one shot at charging a suspect, so, despite “everybody knowing who did it,” they are wise to wait until they have solid proof. Until that happens, I just try to ensure the victim’s story is told and kept alive so they’re not forgotten, and to remind the public it’s never too late to share any kind of knowledge about the case with the investigating agency. There’s often more — as the late radio pioneer Paul Harvey used to say — to “the rest of the story.”

          Thanks again for your kind words. Jody @ ICC

    • matthew c ratliff says:

      is this the same Jim from before that keeps trying to slander me from down below in the comments if so you need to get questioned for spreading lies

    • Matthew Charles Ratliff says:

      Im sorry for getting angry with you but i took it hard my sister and my kids mean everything to me this has bean realy hard right now im trying to get my kids back i lost my wife to cancer in September of 2020 things have bean rough
      im in this fight alone anymore but all i can do is keep my promise and just keep fighting for my kids and the truth

      • Jody Ewing says:

        Matthew, you had every right to be angry then and be angry now. The people you have loved most were unlawfully taken away from you, and I’m sure you know how much time I spent talking to your dad on the phone about Kim’s case in particular. He sent me scanned colored photos of your children (your daughter has such a beautiful smile!), and he died still fighting to get your kids back to you. Both you and I know there’s so much that’s not been addressed on this (Kim’s) page, but we know how and why and where Les did what he did, and we know the names of those who enabled him.

        Your father sent me so many newspaper articles about Kim’s murder (the ones from the early days and years, which I’ve not yet posted here on her page), and I’ve lost track how many times Les Kennedy contradicted himself as he coveted more and more media attention all whilst spilling out and spinning more and more lies. Every time I read the words of what he told Aaron Brilbeck, about this alleged “intervention” with Kim, I want to vomit. We know what he did in the No Frills parking lot time and again (before Kim’s death), and know what went on inside that Tostevin St. House of Hell.

        I’m so very sorry for your recent losses as well…your father in January (Jacques “Jack” Ratliff for those reading this comment), and then your wife in September. And, inexcusably, your children taken against your will (through lies) by a rapist/madman who fed drugs to his children & stepchildren the same way he fed lies/twisted information to lawyers and judges. I still can’t grasp how he got away with it for sooooo long.

        Keep fighting the good fight. It is yours to win. (And I think you know I applauded Jim for having the courage to step up and apologize to you because he’d been confused about the names.) Good men (people in general) apologize when they’re wrong.

        As for “actions,” I doubt any of us will ever see the day when L.K. (or your bio mother, for that matter) apologizes for the monstrous atrocities committed upon untold children inside that Council Bluffs home.

  346. Diane Garofalo says:

    Karen,
    You are my beautiful, funny, loving big cousin. You have never been forgotten by your very large family back here in MA. We miss you today and have for every day since that horrible moment when we learned that you had disappeared. Your parents were never the same – and your three loving little sisters missed the big sister they adored.
    PLEASE, someone, find a way to solve this crime. This has been our prayer for almost 50 years.

    • Lisa says:

      Hopefully the family will be able to finally get closure and this evil monster will get what’s coming to him!

    • MikeD says:

      I wonder what took him to Fairfield, Montana. That’s one of those really small cities in the middle of nowhere in Montana where you’re really away from it all. Less than an hour drive from where Ted Kaczynski the Unabomber was living. A good place to go if you were running from something.

      • tobin caldwell says:

        Actually Fairfield Mt, is in a somewhat populated area of Montana. Which would happen to be my hometown.PoP 700. An on top of it. Matt kennedy had a job in a different dept. than me, where I worked in Great Falls. An because of it, other co-workers and I conversed with him. An also had one co-worker tell me about what Matt had told him in previous conversations. One of which, where matt told the co-worker, that his father (les) had shot him. Cause he hadn’t done a chore fast enough. An also, showed the scar from the wound that was inflicted. However, matt was rather odd, and behaved weirdly at times. Obviously, he wasn’t right. an also was dyslexic. or very educated. An not too mention. He resembled the aqua teen hunger force character, Happy Time Harry. So we refered to him as happy time. Also, after I left that job, I ran across-d him in public in Fairfield. An I’d say something to him. An he’d just give me this wide open eyed, and open mouth look and not say anything. Will be interesting to see how his trial goes

        • Gary Summers says:

          @tobin caldwell, Hey man, I’ve been looking for you all over! You told me you’d call me after leaving the gay stripe club once we did “stuff”. We had a really good time and were planning on having a round 2, but I lost your number at some point. Please call me! I don’t care if you have a wife or a girlfriend, I think I might be in love with you man. XOXO Love, Gary

          • tobin caldwell says:

            Think you got me confused with les kennedy. But good luck with that, and the gay stripe club.

            • Gary Summers says:

              Awww, it’s so flattering that you think I own a stripe club and remember the time we had together. But nope, it’s you I’m talking about. I could never forget your name, especially since it’s tattooed over my heart.

      • Liam Debolt says:

        Mike, Thank you so much for commenting, I think the police finally have a lead on my stolen car. Based on the name on your drivers license you dropped in my driveway before boosting my car and running out of town, the police are pretty sure it’s you on here. It’s only a matter of time Mike you D.

      • jean barta says:

        Mike we were told that his wife had bad allergies and Montana would be a better place for her. My husband was told another story.

    • Stay Strong! says:

      Excellent news! Always great to see justice done.

      As the article alludes to, it must have been advances in DNA that inextricably linked Kennedy to the murder scene.

      It will be interesting to follow the trial & conviction (presumably) from here on out.

  347. Mike Morford says:

    There is a brand new in depth podcast about this case out right now. You’ll hear from friends and family of the victims, investigators, and hotel staff at the scene

    https://www.spreaker.com/user/11688200/scene-of-the-crime-season-2-episode-1-th

  348. Alec Binnie says:

    Looking for information about Carol Donnelly, killed in Des Moines late 1979, body discovered early 1980. This case once appeared on your site. Has it been solved?

  349. Stay Strong! says:

    Delbert sounds like a real quality guy.

    May he rot in hell.

  350. PJ says:

    Do you know who your half twin sisters are from your father’s fiancee Gloria?? Just curious if you would want to know that information?? I am so very sorry that this case has never been solved. It sounds like you have experienced a lot of heartbreak in your life. Prayers for you as you continue this journey.

  351. MikeD says:

    I’m curious as to how much planning went into this Florida trip. Was it planned well in advance or was it on the spur of the moment? What as the reason to go? Just to see her family or was there more to it? What arrangments were made for her children in Iowa? Do we know what day she originally left Iowa and what day she first see family in Florida? When she was last seen on September 6, 1983 was she leaving for Iowa soon?

    Maybe the person she was traveling with was the one who had specific things to do in Flordia and Viola found out and asked if she could come because she had family in the area she would like to see.

  352. Jj says:

    Running the family DNA to familial matches to known offenders in CODIS may produce a male offender match (any of her former relations who may have been the kids father). This match if any may produce a suspect or potential names of friends and associates of the mother and her traveling companion.

  353. MikeD says:

    I know the obvious first thought is that the wife must have been having an affair. The theory that she was busted by Tom while she was naked and in the act with the other man.

    My thought is that she was naked when she went to the other farmhouse because she did run right away. If Tom was killed while she was there she probably would have taken the time to get dressed. She would have been able to tell the same story about the naked intruder without her being naked as well and would have looked a lot less suspicious.

    I can believe that she wasn’t there when he was shot, but I don’t beleive her story about what lead up to it. I’m sure she knows exactly who did it. Chances are that Tom knew him too.

  354. Darlene Olshansky says:

    Well the girlfriend obviously knows something. She is either directly involved or covering for someone. How many friends were there that night? Female? Male? Were they questioned? Something is missing from the above information because it is too black and white.

  355. Ryan says:

    It looks like Robin Clark Latham is currently incarcerated in Iowa because of a probation violation in March of 2020.

    It’s a shame that things were handled so improperly during the investigation and by the mortician. Maybe I missed it, but what was the official cause of death? The blunt force trauma to the head or did she drown in the water?

  356. Phil says:

    I am very sorry First and foremost to The Children and loved ones of Denease Latham. I am also sorry for my use of wording but to be honest :Why isn’t this Mother of 3 had justice yet? it is so very obvious that not only was she murdered but her death is a cover up. Why wasn’t the mortician ever questioned and convicted with the husband? The evidence is so overwhelming. Just plainly sad…

  357. Ryan says:

    I joined the Justice for Josh group on FB but there isn’t anyone sharing any theories about what happened. I would like to know what the family thinks happened. Looking around some of the posts and comments I saw that people think he was killed and buried just like Christopher Bagley because of links Joshua has to some of the people involved in that case. The family wants someone to talk, but they won’t talk either, at least not publically.

    • AndrewD says:

      It seems like the Justice For Josh Facebook page is more therapy for the family than anything. I’m not sure the family wants to discuss theories in public. Just a little basic web-sleuthing and background checks about Josh lets you see that he had some problems dating all the way back to high school age and he did serve time in person a couple times. I’m not saying Josh was a bad person, but he was involved in bad things. One thing I noticed years ago is that Bagley and Josh had some of the same friends out of Palo. A lot of these same friends have meth convictions in the past.

  358. Snakelady says:

    I have watched CSI, NCIS, Criminal Minds, etc & started wondering. What if his car was still operational & there was a 2 or more team that attacked him, could they take him & his car outa state somewhere, sell his car on the black market or chop shop & then take him somewhere after that. That would be why his car’s not found yet in the waters where he was. If so, have the detectives tried combing the filling stations & restaurants the next towns over from where he was last seen. Maybe he broke down & a trucker picked him up & someone else stole his car & drove off. Maybe he’s in witness protection somewhere, wonder if the detectives checked there. I hope he’s found soon & GOD be with his family & friends.

  359. he dose not have a medical issues.

  360. Gwen Harrison Boggess says:

    Gwen
    I was friends with Greg since grade school and always liked him. I pray for him and his family that he is found so his family will get some relief. Jehovah, please help his family, I know he will be resurrected (John 5: 28, 29). God will bring him back and he will have another chance to live a good life. Then Jehovah will judge all of us.

  361. Dustin Dawson says:

    I bet Mike ozwald did it. His brother Brian ozwald ran out front door pointing at Mike saying he did he is the one that shot Randy. Rip dad I bet it’s because waterloo police should not allow confidential informants get away with anything literally let Mike go Christmas day without even a gun powder residue test. Some friend you were to my dad. Wait till it comes the day you answer to heavily father. Should the police be held partially responsible I don’t think Mike would have done it not knowing someone downtown to help him. Jeff tyler waterloo police investigator wouldn’t take my version of that day. How does one get away with that with capital murder. I bet he would shit if someone from a higher rank took his job as pointless and a waste or taxpayers money. All bums

  362. Norma-Jean Sorrell says:

    Dr.OZ: I watched a man (Detective) share details about a 30+ year old Cold Case (double homicide, male & female) in a room, which had previously been “reserved” for a Mortician & canceled at the last moment.
    I listened for him to describe the investigation of that Mortician and never heard anything about that. My intuition is the murder was intended for him & clandestine associate.
    If interested contact me & I had more imagined details
    Please leave a message if I’m unable to answer the phone
    901-832-1496 Norma-Jean (Jeanie) Sorrell

  363. MikeD says:

    A possible theory could be that the mother was a University of Iowa student that was hiding her pregnancy and had an easier time doing it because she was from another state. That would probably mean her family didn’t see her since August. She could have given birth, abandoned the baby, and went home for the holidays. I hope they have some DNA. With this theory, the mother would be between the ages of 45 and 50 now. He would be turning 28 this year.

  364. ramzy Noel says:

    I agree that it was definitely the ax that killed him. What a horrible way to die considering the circumstances. In your opinion, did he really deserved to die? Could this situation be handed differently? Just a few thoughts that crossed my mind as I was reading the story.

  365. W. Morales says:

    I hope with new DNA advancement one day the evil mother will be brought to justice.

  366. Deb Galloway says:

    I was reading the Cold Case Files on your
    brother Harry and I read your letter, I hope
    and pray you will find him. The people that
    know what happened have kept silent this
    long so they will never tell it’s up to someone
    else or to the police to find him.
    I will keep Harry and you in my prayers.
    God bless you both.

  367. Chris Parmenter says:

    Was it ever mentioned how the local man whose truck was seen at the house came upon a good amount of money shortly after? Was he ever ruled out, or as a suspect?

  368. MarGurita Hammond says:

    HAPPY HEAVENLY BIRTHDAY BOO I LOVE YOU SO MUCH GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

  369. Jennifer L Wilkinson says:

    I wanted to say one more thing it’s your birthday you got a granddaughter about the one your son is about to be home and Darius was promoted but 2020 has been okay but a horrible year in the making just continue to keep us safe… no matter the things I’ve done for the places I go or have been you’ve always been number one no matter what people have to say thank you for two of my biggest blessing love always

  370. Jennifer L Wilkinson says:

    Hey it’s me again I wanted to wish you a happy birthday until you seasoning sir David will be home soon his daughter your granddaughter is about to be one and your son Darius was promoted to a sergeant thank you for blessing them and watching over them we miss you will always miss you until we meet again

  371. Linda Kay Lanphier says:

    It is encouraging to see the comments and how many people are interested in seeing this mystery resolved. Has any DNA testing been done? Is evidence still being stored that could be tested and evaluated? I know there are more current cases and obviously, detectives are spending their valuable time on those. But Ed Schmidt’s case is still waiting….. waiting for justice. It is 2020 and time is running out.

  372. Scot says:

    Any chance an exhumation could be conducted to collect some DNA from this young child?

  373. Curious One says:

    I am confused about a thing: Jaymie was found in the bathtub, but, no one ever says whether there was water in the tub.

    The unique pattern of burns on her front side may be because she was floating in water and only got burned where her skin was above the water line?

    At any rate, It seems pretty obvious that Ms. Reed has some explaining to do regarding the months leading up to the fire and the bizarre collection of pathologies found during Jaymie’s autopsy. The girl would have been greatly suffering having ALL of those things wrong with her at the same time! How does that even happen? She had E-coli poisoning (which is typically transmitted through ingestion of feces from an infected animal or person which was then transferred to a food item). She had cirrhosis, pneumonia, and anoxic encephalopathy.

    Regarding anoxic encephalopathy: “Anoxic encephalopathy, or hypoxic-ischemic brain injury, is a process that begins with the cessation of cerebral blood flow to brain tissue, which most commonly results from poisoning (for example carbon monoxide or drug overdose), vascular injury or insult, or cardiac arrest.”

    Jaymie was being abused or, at the very LEAST, she was neglected. I am wondering if Vicki Reed suffers from Munchausen by Proxy – she was poisoning, or making Jamie sick in an attempt to gain attention for herself as the loving parent.

    I think Jaymie became critically ill (or as Jody theorizes was scalded) and rather than seek medical attention, Vicki decided to setup the house fire in the hopes that Jaymie would be burned to death and Vicki’s crimes would be gone with her.

  374. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    So a classmate of Jeffrey supposefly saw him alive at the apartment of Judy Davis. She lived at the Seneca Apartments. So, the question is, did he have a relationship with her or just hanging out with a co- worker.

    Also, where was the Seneca Apartments in relation to the Jefferson Apartments. Also, what did she do at the hospital.

    • Cindy Huseby says:

      Hi Patrick, who was the classmate? Also do you know the who this Judy Davis is? I have tried to search for her without any luck. This was a horrible tragedy, the unsolved murder is always in the back of your mind wondering who and why?

  375. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Larry, I would think the police, might prefer a bit more information on wbich to look at Henry Claytor.

    Was a student at the school, or maybe someone who had a thing for Penny, and she turned him down. Maybe he believed her essay implicated him in something she was aware of.

  376. Stay Strong says:

    In case anyone is interested, Dateline produced an hour long segment on the Michelle Martinko case.

    You should be able to go to NBC.com and identify your cable / streaming service provider and view the show. It’s called “And then there were three”.

  377. Linda S Jones says:

    Update: From a granddaughter of Robert Lee Ruby –
    In regards to our Grandfather, Robert Lee Ruby, I can only go by stories my mother told me. She always told me that he “fell” down a “Well” and broke every bone in his body. My mother insists she was with him at the time and knew that he didn’t fall but he was pushed. My mother was only 13 at the time so to her the mine shaft was a “well”. She also told me that she saw who did it (they didn’t see her) and I was never to ask who it was. I asked her if I knew the person and she told me with a firm voice that she would never reveal that information and would take it to her grave; which she did. I asked her why she thought the incident happened and she stated that it was over money and probably the fact that our grandfather had more than most. Many people were jealous that he was able to continue to bring money in during the depression. He was also able to rebuild his finances after spending all he had for our grandmother, Mary Ellen Ruby, during her illness. He had the reputation of helping those in need and always provided food and a place to sleep for people who were traveling or just needed help along the way. My mother remembers a post on the fence that the people would put marks on to let others know that their farm was a place where they could be helped. The only rule……Grandpa took all of their matches and cigarettes before they went into the barn to sleep. What does concern me about the statements she made about grandfather’s death was the distress she felt when she told the story. If I didn’t know the person or know about the person she would have told me what she knew about them without giving me his/her name. This is why I have always thought I either knew the person or knew about them. It was never discussed again and I never mentioned it or asked. I do feel that it was NOT an accident but a murder. I don’t believe the story that the horse could have moved the wagon and caused grandfather to fall. He was also a farmer and knew about equipment and animals plus the fact that since my mother WAS with him he would have not taken any unnecessary risks etc. This added with my mother’s statements indicates to me it wasn’t an accident. I don’t have any proof other than what she told me which was all hearsay. However, my mother was always quiet about her father and didn’t speak of him much unless I asked questions. When my mother told me what she knew about the “accident” she was not ill nor on any medications that would cause her to tell outlandish stories. My mother and I were very close so I think she confided in me as much as she could just to release the burden of knowing more than what was told.

  378. M. Peters says:

    Ok so I just started doing some research on this case from old newspaper articles so hopefully some of you who have been researching this longer can help.( I will also point out I am in no way trying to blame the crime on the family or neighbors.) I have soooo many questions? I went back to reports from the day Donna Sue went missing before her body was found and initial reports state Mr. Davis didn’t see his daughter missing until 10pm. So it is unclear to me how the timeline changed from 10pm to 9:40, unless initial reports were wrong or further interviews with Mr. Davis and the family gave a different time frame. Next is that if the suspicious man seen was carrying Donna Sue then why wouldn’t she have awoken during the ordeal, unless she was incapacitated in some way. A man carrying her right after falling asleep when he is being described as hunched over, hiding in spots, running, jumped a fence, a barking dog, and nearby neighbors yelling at him, it doesn’t make sense how she would have slept through all of that. If she was incapacitated then it would be clear it was not a crime of opportunity. But planned. Someone who knew that window was going to be open, what time she went to bed, and where she slept. Next is the interaction with Mr. and Mrs. Fjeldos and the suspicious man. I cannot wrap my head around why Mr. Fjeldos would leave his wife alone outside with a suspicious man while he phoned police. I asked my husband the same question and he told me he would immediately send me inside to safety. Am I reading too much into this? Not sure but it is something that stood out to me right away. I still have more questions but I will stop there for now and hopefully get some clarification.

  379. I NEW MR. MASSOURIS, I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH HIS DAUGHTER, SALLY.WAS IN THE HOME AFTER SCHOOL, MR. MASSOURIS ALWAYS GAVE THE KID’S O THE NEIGHBOR HOOD MONEY ,FOR POP SICKLES. HE ALWAY’S SEEMED LARGER THAN LIFE, SORTA, LIKE (AL PACINO)’ MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT BLESS YOU NOW AND FOREVER. EVE( MILLER ) MC BRIDE

  380. MEGAN says:

    While doing some research I found an old newspaper article that stated sioux city pd got some good fingerprints off the chest, crib, and window. Did those turn out to be fingerprints of the immediate family. I never see anything discussed about them?

  381. Antonio Burks says:

    Tony and I were classmates in elementary school. We would play almost daily in the summer time. He has the spirit and energy, always willing to help you when you were down, always the life in the room. I remember the day I came over and knocked on the door, I hadn’t seen him in awhile—that’s when I had learned of his passing. As I get older, I frequently think about my friend and where he would be in life. It deeply saddens me to realize he is no longer here, but my friend I want you to know you haven’t been forgotten; I remember you, and so do a many of others. I am now 26 years old and the world is in a crazy state filled with political and racial agendas. When I think of Tony, I think of a human that did not see color and saw me as his friend and the goodness of others. Rest easy Tony, I miss ya ❤️

  382. Moon says:

    I remember hearing about this, on the Chicago news, when it happened.

    Was there any chance that the person or persons who abducted her were in the apartment with her and made her say that she overslept when her colleague called?

  383. Big Anon says:

    Yo yo boys, is this the city with the homeless clan out killing people?

  384. Joshua says:

    RIP Goldie Belle…. Much love from your great grandson

  385. Ashley says:

    Are you the same Teresa that commented quite a while ago about a man that was born in 1960 that told you about a crime that now lives in Russellville,AR

  386. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I searched for some address information on two websites, but found nothing. I wonder if Anon could check their resources. It might help if we knew his medical issues.

  387. Teresa says:

    did you see if this may be The following people, Darlene Fitchett, Alice mae Van Alstine , it would probably help if knew an estimate how long she been gone, not sure if u can do that, here also I found some girls/ young ladies who this could be, some ot from Iowa but who knows someone could of brought the girls to Iowa, Kristy Lynn Booth – Cheryl Ann Scherer, 19, – Scott City, Missouri

    • Ashley says:

      Are you the same Teresa that commented quite a while ago about a man that was born in 1960 that told you about a crime that now lives in Russellville,AR

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  389. Jessica Celeste Rowe says:

    I know where he is.

  390. Teresa Handy says:

    prayers with family, I hope they get some resolution of what happen to Mervin

  391. Teresa says:

    I think both cases, are mexician decent and went back to mexico, I hope they find out who did this

  392. Tri State Girl says:

    I’ve seen it reported that Marc lived with a Grandmother in Connecticut for his first few years. I know this detail may be lost in time, but does anyone know where? I’m from Connecticut, so I’ve just always wondered where Mark and his Grandma lived. It’s weird to think I have probably been through areas he once went to, before moving to Iowa.

  393. Sarah Rushton says:

    Leslie Rule, daughter of the late true-crime writer Ann Rule, has published a book about this case called “A Tangled Web.” Very good book, and a terrifying story!

  394. Lisa says:

    This is a very odd statement to make!

  395. Stay Strong, Fight For Justice says:

    I thought some may be interested that On The Case With Paula Zahn on Investigation Discovery (ID) network premiered a segment yesterday on the Michelle Martinko case.

    The ID network is carried by most television providers or directly on the ID Network website (will need to input your television provider). The segment called “”A Test of Patience” should be searchable and viewable at any point here.

    Upcoming segments will be produced and aired by 48 Hours and Dateline in a yet to be announced date and time.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      Anonymous. I wonder if the details were ever shared with the VA Office of Inspector General, They OIG conducts audits of the various operations to check fro fruad, waste and abuse. They also have criminal investigators, who are special agents. So, this would be something that they should have been involved with.

      I worked with a number of their people in my time in the VA many years ago. Off course, it might take many hours to check old records to see when Arnold, was in the VA.

      Also, checking the system for veterans with the date of birth of 1948, might take some time.Also, seeing if any6 veteran was getting a disability to a flamethrower accident, might take some time.

  396. Mike K says:

    I clearly remember when Gene disappeared. I was 15 at the time. Gene was 2 years younger than I, he lived with his mother on the east side during the school year, and visited his dad during the summer, so I didn’t know him, but this happened in my south side neighborhood, and it hit me pry hard.

    As someone who grew up about a mile from where Gene’s paper bundles were dropped, and about a 1/4 mile from where his bag was found, who also spent a few weeks in Iowa August beating the bushes all over the south side of Des Moines with the organized search crews, I’d like to point some things out to the internet sleuths here.

    First. From where his paper bundles were dropped, the city limits are approximately 1 mile straight south, and also about a mile and a quarter west on a state highway that ran straight to Interstate 35. The map today doesn’t represent the area as it was because the airport bought out my entire neighborhood to expand and rerouted the highway a bit to the south. But if you look at the intersection of SW 14th and Army Post Rd. on the current map, then track a straight line west to I-35, through the airport, that is how the highway ran. Near the end of the last building shown on the airport on Google maps today is where the city limit sign used to be, and if memory serves me correctly 36 years later, Gene’s bag was found on the side of the road not too far past the sign (and not far from my driveway) by his RM, who saw it because it was on his path from where he was to Gene’s bundle drop. You could never miss those bright yellow bags playing on the ground anywhere.

    I didn’t know Gene because he was 2 years younger than me, but this was my neighborhood.

    The biggest reason that there is more information about the investigation out in the public view about Johnny Gosch than Gene is because Noreen could not stay away from microphones, and often times said things on air that compromised the police investigation. Don Martin didn’t do this.

    I can tell you that in the weeks after Gene’s disappearance there wasn’t a field, barn, ditch, culvert, property, creek bed, river bank, railroad trestle, abandoned piece of farm equipment, or park inside of a 7 mile radius that wasn’t walked and checked by our group, which often times was accompanied by Gene’s uncle. No property owner, to my knowledge, told us no, you can’t look here. That’s just the way we were back then. I also remember that neighborhood was literally crawling with police canvassing, checking, looking, etc… For at least a week. They were never denied access anywhere they wanted to look because us south siders were upset, and actually wanted to help. Nobody in Gene’s family hurt him, or buried him in the basement under his own house. Those things were extensively checked.

    Detective Rowley followed every lead and idea that came his way. You can take that to the bank. I will say that in the interest of keeping investigation details under wraps to keep the cranks from wasting his time, he wouldn’t, or couldn’t let people know what was or wasn’t found. That’s just standard investigative procedure. I see names called out here that I remember hearing back then, so I can only assume they were thoroughly investigated as well.

    Yes, the Register had a few pedophiles working in the delivery department at the time, but I recall every single one of them was checked thoroughly, as well as the RM, the DM, and anyone else with the Register that might have had a slight passing knowledge. DMPD didn’t want to miss a trick, and I don’t recall hearing of anyone stonewalling them.

    Someone mentioned that when Gene disappeared, the fair was in town. This is incorrect. When Gene disappeared, Balloon Fest was happening in Indianola, and the fair was still over a week away (August 15-25). It was someone from the neighborhood headed for Indianola to watch the morning mass ascension who witnessed Gene speaking with the adult. Although Gene’s mom lived a few blocks from the fairgrounds, Gene was at his dad’s, which was a good 20 minute drive from the fairgrounds, so the possibility of it being one of the carnies was extremely slim as that show wouldn’t have even been in the state of Iowa at that time.

    36 years later I still recall these things clearly. I remember coming home every night absolutely exhausted from all the walking and climbing over fences and obstacles, but ready to go again the next morning because I wanted him back home with his family. I remember how sad I felt when the searches were called off because we hadn’t been successful.

    Gene would be 50 this year, and we still don’t know where he is.

    • R&T says:

      Are you saying the newspaper bag was found on Army Post Road? Wasn’t there a church there before the airport expanded? If someone was headed that way with Gene, they might have been returning to WDM, which makes sense if it was the same person who kidnapped Johnny Gosch.That seems more likely than some random stranger from the balloon festival 15 miles away.

      • Mike K says:

        It was never stated, but from where we began, and focused the searches, yes, it appeared the bag was found on Army Post. Yes, there was a church out there. (Airport Baptist Church, the lot still remains and can be seen on Google maps) and the house I grew up in was right next door to the church. The city limits was about 1/2 mile father west from my house.

        Heading that watt would take you to Interstate 35, which can take you anywhere from there.

    • Clay says:

      Mike K.. I grew up just a few blocks from the abduction site and by the sound of it you and I are only 2 years apart in age. We may have met long ago. I also carried papers on SW15th St. The thing you need to remember is that south Des Moines and West Des Moines were very connectible then. Army Post (Hwy 5) shot straight west to 35 or 63rd Street that takes you into Johnny Gosch area.. but you could do most of the route then by skirting the city. At 6 am on a Sunday it would be a fast route. My point.. I think the Johnny and Eugene abductor was between or in those areas. I do not think it was a guy from North Des Moines trolling the southwest side. But at that time there was a lot of wooded or rural stretches on western Army Post Road.

  397. Debbie fuhrman says:

    I just want to find her. She is a great lady. She would have never left her daughter.

  398. I just that we could find her. And let her rest in peace

  399. Kim Ineichen says:

    Hey asshole, you don’t know the true story, so shut the fuck up.

  400. Scot says:

    Any chance there’s enough DNA from the skeleton found in order to do a genealogy aeaech?

    • Teresa says:

      that would be great if they did, I see so many cold cases who crimes were solved due to dna, I hope this is one!!

  401. Lisa says:

    I wished my memory was better! But I can say that I KNOW this girl! I have tried so hard to remember exactly when i met her…
    I know I spoke with her about her adopted family and she spoke of her children..and how she wanted a relationship with them.
    I emailed the police above in regards to the information i know… Hope and pray Brianne will get justice ❤🙏

  402. Lu Eggers says:

    The Key To All Of This Is Curtis Padgett…I’m Sorry.But To Me His Story Doesn’t Sound Credible……It Sounds Made Up….

  403. Jamal says:

    This man was a criminal.
    Who gives a damn about his murder?
    May he NOT rest in peace

  404. Brenda says:

    Why are there two different missing dates, two years apart? What is the real story here? And from what I understand, Kimberly was in Texas and took a Greyhound bus to Davenport Iowa to visit her father, but never arrived at her father’s house. So who verified that she actually made it to Davenport?

  405. 1026 says:

    Check out the Knight families’ court records..they are criminals https://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/DefaultFrame

    Isaac Knight, Donald Knight, Benjamin Knight, Sarah Bergman

  406. 1026 says:

    Check out the Knight families’ court records..they are criminals https://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/DefaultFrame

    Isaac Knight Donald Knight, Benjamin Knight

  407. 1026 says:

    Trust me the Knights can sleep at night. They have no regard for the law and what is right and wrong. They have no conscience. They have not pushed LE to try to solve Laura’s murder, they just sit back and laugh and hide. They did not care about Laura, they wanted her out of their lives and they succeeded.

  408. 1026 says:

    Laura and her mother fought over her fraternizing with the Knights. Her mother did not feel they were people who were law abiding citizens and respectful of law enforcement and authority.

  409. Dee says:

    This person of interest looks like Nick wood!

  410. Tri State Girl says:

    Were there other missing kids before Johnny in the 80’s or even the late 70’s? I know Eugene Martin and Marc Allen were kidnapped after Johnny, and that from ’86 to ’89 there were other attempts, that thankfully failed. Were there possibly other attempts back around 1982 that people ignored? Or maybe kids felt they couldn’t report them?

  411. Jeremiah says:

    In my opinion, Charles Ray Hatch should be a suspect in the murders of Donald Hebert, Roger Atkison, Rose Burkert, and Sandra Jo Pittman.

    Charles Ray Hatch was Roger Atkison’s uncle I believe. He escaped from a facility in Nebraska on September 6th, 1980. September 8th, 1980, Donald Hebert is seen leaving a local tavern with an unknown male. He is found shot just above the left eye. Based on known information, it appears the unknown male subject killed Hebert for money. The homicide took place in Des Moines, Iowa.

    Four days later, on September 12th, 1980, Roger Atkison and Rose Burkert are murdered at the Holiday Inn in Amana, Iowa. Amana is straight east of Des Moines. They are brutally killed with an ax/hatchet like object. The two had met up at the hotel, which is about 270 miles from home in Missouri. Why meet up there of all places? Atkison was married and they were having an affair, but why so far away? With his Uncle escaping just 6 days prior, one has to wonder if he had contacted Roger looking for help.

    On September 17th, 1980, Sandra Jo Pittman is murdered by blunt force trauma to the head, near Clarence, Iowa. This location is further straight east of Amana and Des Moines. I find no description of the weapon used other than “claw hammer of crow bar type object” was used to kill her by blows to the head. She was reported to be staying at the Catholic Shelter in Davenport when she went missing.

    This is interesting since Charles Ray Hatcher, who was picked up on the escape charge in Lincoln, NE on October 9th, 1980, would later be released to the Salvation Army Shelter in Davenport, Iowa after being released from Des Moines on April 10th, 1981. He had been held just prior for a knife fight, but was held under an alias.

    That’s all I’ve looked into so far, but Charles Ray Hatcher should be a very strong suspect in all these cases.

  412. Constance Combs says:

    If Johnny Gosch was alive as Noreen Gosch has suggested, perhaps he now has children or grandchildren. Although it is a long shot, I think Johnny’s parents should submit DNA tests to Ancestry.com and 23 and Me with law enforcement serving as administrator of the dna results. When the results come back, the raw data should be uploaded for free to gedmatch, my heritage, and family tree. Then if there are close family matches with cms in the range of a parent child, grandparent to grandchild, or great grandparent to great grandchild relationship this would indicate he is alive. If no such results come in then he probably is not alive. This should be done before the death of Johnny’s parents. The cm relationships can be determined by using the free online DNA Painter and typing in the cm number of a dna match and tgen scrolling down to see the possible relationships.

  413. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Anon, I agree with you that something is rotten in Denmark on this case. Then supposedly a woman claiming to be mom,tells us after 19 years, that she was found within days of her disappearance and she never got around to telling the police for some 19 years. But she feels she needs to let us know.

    Also, would not a neighbor, the local police,someone, would have come across her in their normal daily routine. Unless this family lives miles from anyone, and their phones were knocked out 19 years ago.

  414. Maria Steward says:

    Hello I am Crystal’s mother and she has been found days after she went missing. I never corresponded with the police of her being found. Thank you for your concerns.

    • anon says:

      I can find no evidence of a Crystal Leann Steward who would now be age 31 in Texas, Iowa, or anywhere else. I can tell from public records that someone named Maria Steward from Burlington is now named Maria Gonzalez and lives in Texas, but I, for one, am unable to find any evidence that Crystal is alive and well today.

      • Crystal Lerma says:

        You would not find me under my maiden name because I’ve been married now for 15 yrs. I was not 11 years old when my mother Maria reported me missing, they have the wrong year of birth for me, I was 15 during this time. I have already talked with a sheriff deputy from Des Moines County after they went to my sisters house looking for me 19 years later. I appreciate everyone’s concern for my safety though.

    • Jody Ewing says:

      Maria, this is Jody, the admin for the Iowa Cold Cases website. Do you have a photo of Crystal from 2001 that you could share with me, along with a current photo of her? As her mother, I’m sure you would have many. You may send them to jody at iowacoldcases.org or use the contact form button on this page to reach me.

      Thank you in advance, and I look forward to hearing from you.

      Jody @ ICC

  415. Philinise Hamlin says:

    JusticeFor Kaiden! Contuined prayers for the family as they try to get through each day after his murderer is finally caught! You can rest ,Kaiden. Rest In Peace.

  416. Rick Doerring says:

    He was my favorite Uncle , he was very depressed for many years and had 2 sucide attempts a few years before his disappearance. His truck was not stolen and we guessed that he went in the river but could not swim. I miss him still. Rick Doerring

  417. Teresa Ann Bannister Handy says:

    my dad was neighbor to the one found on 8th street, only thing could tell them they wee mexician and never heard them speak english

  418. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Justin, I agree. When I forced heard about the two girls in Chicago, the use of .32 caliber firearm seemed odd. However, they were popular for a time. Also, a 15 year old boy from Zion, Illinois, disappeared possibly in December 1970. He was found shot to death in a ditch in Racine County, Wisconsin. He was shot in the head three times with a .32 caliber firearm. This is similar to the murder of the two girls.

    However, some Chicago Mob hitman, also used .22 caliber firearms. However, two of them used a .22 caliber firearm on a Ken Eto, who ran a gambling operation for the Mob. Well, he survived, and rolled over to the Feds. The two hitman, were found murdered in the trunk of a stolen car.

    So, I wonder about the use of small caliber firearms in a few unsolved murders.

  419. bob irrumatio says:

    IIRC, at the time of the murder, a black escalade had been seen in the area, an older associate of hers drove a similar vehicle and was cleared with all the speed of someone with a connected employer, he later committed suicide, can’t recall the details, but I believe they were good friends, I wondered if the wife was a little nuts, saw an affair and shot her, and the husband covered it up and finally couldn’t deal with it and killed himself.

  420. Teddy Ryley says:

    I don’t suppose they kept the blood samples. DNA doesn’t lie. Wasn’t much of thing back then but if they still have the clothing in evidence they should be able to pull dna. Just a thought.

  421. Dena Gray-Fisher says:

    Corrections to “About Lloyd Patrick” section: Lloyd and Jeannette had two children; Betty Francine Patrick DeBruin (1927-2011) and Glenn Lloyd Patrick (1934-2014). Lloyd was born at Beacon, Mahaska county, Iowa.

  422. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Cindy, I appreciate the details that you provided since you were with Valerie when she left. The frustrating part to me, is that she spent most of Sunday, with LuAnn Hicks. Then she meets with you to go swimming and then stay overnight. Then she leaves you at the pool, she stops again at LuAnn’s. However, she was not home. It makes me wonder if she wanted LuAnn, to be with her when she met whoever later. I wonder what details she could provide. I agree, that the offender is someone in plain sight at the time, and may have left the area.

  423. Teresa says:

    I posted this post a year ago. Bring that I have watched many crime and investigation show, the way this child was found, was personal. Did they ever look at the immediate family members? I just hope and pray they can give this little girl justice and that she may rest in peace 🙏😔

  424. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    In regards to the cold weather, I remember my late father used to put an old army blanket on the engine, in the cold weather. I remember doing that myself while working at the VA, especially working nights. The only problem is that I would forget to remove the blanket, until about have way home. At least the engine stayed warm.

    So, it appears that these two friends decided to not warm up earlier their cars until they were going to visit the victim.

  425. deb gatewood says:

    did his girl friends car always have problems or just on that day ..just wondering

  426. Andrea says:

    Arthur Charles Scott is now on facebook https://www.facebook.com/acharlesscott

  427. Andrea says:

    Here is the current contact info for Arthur Charles Scott. https://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/art-charles-scott_id_G-xwZ8QpBBvx2P2

  428. Andrea says:

    As I asked above, Why isn’t her body exhumed to see if there is DNA under her nails? Arthur Charles Scott was admittedly the last person to see her alive. He gave different stories to law enforcement, and then refused to take a polygraph. His face was covered in scratches the day after her disappearance and he claimed he got them from “falling down at home.” His parents hired a spendy lawyer and then hustled him out of state. Now he is age 73 and lives in Illinois. Gary McHugh was cleared and was willing to take a polygraph.

    • LakeLife says:

      They need to exhume her body!
      His DNA could be under her fingernails!
      Maybe the date didn’t go the way he wanted it to & he got mad…
      Her body was was partially nude.

  429. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    The more I read about Valerie’s case, it becomes confusing. She supposedly hung out with LuAnn Hicks. Then she meets up with Cindy, to go the swimming pool for the evening program. She then bails out on Cindy, to meet up with someone.

    But, she then stops by LuAnn’s house to see if she was home. LuAnn was not home at the time. So, she stands up Cindy at the swimming pool, and is last seen at a street corner at about 8:30 p.m. Was this where she was supposed to meet the other person.

    I wonder if Valerie while on her way to her meeting with her unidentified friend, decided to kill some time at LuAnn’s house. We need to know her story if any.

    Also, what if anything she may have shared with her sisters and other school friends. The only one we hear from is Cindy, who provides the correct details on what happened at the swimming pool.

    We need more details, that may be in the police reports. Quite often cold case investigators come across references to people, who were never interviewed or evidence that was never tested, or could be retested.

  430. Nygil says:

    has anybody found him .. i’m his son

  431. Brian says:

    I can’t believe the sheriff never pursued Arthur Scott Jr especially when some of her clothes were found on the street he lived on. I wonder if they ever searched his car or checked out if it was a two-toned Mercury. I’m guessing because he was the son of a businessman they didn’t go after him.

    • Stay Strong, Fight for Justice! says:

      Wow, great family alright…

      Some farming families are ruthless and very greedy. My in-laws are farmers and are great people, However, I’ve seen enough from their more distant relatives, neighboring farming families, landlords & tenants to know millions of dollars in farmland corrupts.

  432. Jennifer Kugel says:

    I heard someone was arrested is this true?

  433. Yoda says:

    First, the cops don’t let anybody go on bond or bail. Judges do that. The cops do not decide who to prosecute. The county attorney does that. If some commenters think it is easy being a cop, then apply for a job doing it. Oh, wait, you can’t you say because you have a record? Any idiot can blame cops in a uniform and a marked police car. They are an easy target. Try spreading the blame to the “suits” that make decisions over which the cops have no control. That also means juries, and the people that try anything to get out of jury duty. Law enforcement is a reflection of the community they serve. If you want change, stop letting the media fail to print the names of judges in cases they hear, and vote no on them on being retained in office on your election ballot if you don’ like their decisions and sentencing habits. Too many of these people think they do not have a door on their chambers, but instead a stone that rolls away. The difference between too many of them and Jesus Christ is Christ does not walk down the street thinking he is a judge.

  434. Tom says:

    The Boy Scouts could have closed this one. Obviously the husband.

  435. andreadole2 says:

    Someone at least claiming to be him has a new youtube channel and has recently posted a bunch of new videos.
    This is different than his old youtube channel.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDCXkEcSAqJKmL_ayaZULEw

  436. andreadole2 says:

    Look at the middle boy in this photo from the facebook page of the guy named Mario Nimaja who lives in Denison. Is this a younger version of the boy that Jesse has in various photos on the internet? I’m not so good with faces, or aging between years.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1605330886351040&set=ecnf.100006224316886&type=3&theater

  437. K says:

    Mr. McIntyre, your claims have been fully investigated and completely debunked by law enforcement. Not a single thing you’ve said in the above statement or in any other statements you blanket on the true crime sites are in any way true. By making false claims (and ego boosting yourself to boot), you’re hurting the families and friends of the victims. Please stop.

  438. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I find M. McIntyre’s comments a mess. He throws out stuff about Keith DeWayne Nelson, who was convicted in the Pamela Butler case. Yes he is federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana. Also he is on a list of federal inmates to be executed.

    But, Mr. McIntyre comments are a jumble of other incidents that may be connected to Mr. Nelson. But, he does not provide any facts, as Sgt. Joe Friday would say. His material is all over the place and not organized.

    He could have shown proof that Mr. Nelson was in living, working, or visiting in these places, especially Mason City, Iowa. Mr. Nelson, might fit a profile if we had found Jodi murdered, and she was killed in the same way as Pamela Butler.

    But, all he does he is throw Mr. Keith Nelson at the wall, expects him to stick as being involved in Jodi’s case. I would expect more from an alleged criminal profiler.

  439. Alexandria Marie says:

    Hey mom, its me again. Been thinking of you a lot. Grandpa (on dads side) isn’t doing the best lately.. so been trying to think positive but it gets hard at times.
    I am getting married in a few months :) youd absolutely love him. We are flying out to iowa next month to see everyone, its been about a year. So that will be really nice.
    I love and miss you very much and I wish so much that you could be here to watch me walk down the isle and watch my family grow, but i know you’re watching over me ♡

  440. andreadole2 says:

    This person is another “nimaja” from Denison…
    https://www.facebook.com/mario.nimaj

  441. andreadole2 says:

    It gets weirder. Check this out. He definitely seems somehow related to that Pedro Nimaja Pol who is the sex offender. https://soundcloud.com/giovanipedro-nimajapol

  442. andreadole2 says:

    Please look at this LinkedIn Profile for Adexe Nau Giovanni Nimaja Pol located here:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/adexe-nau-giovanni-nimaja-pol-b18490126/?originalSubdomain=ar

    It says: “soy niño mis padres me mantiene en ninguna y canté y bailarín” which I believe means “I’m a child; my parents don’t support me, and I sing and dance.”

  443. Michael Stevens says:

    Even though the girls died at different ages in different years they were all basically the same age probably in the same class being born in either 56 or 57 which would probably put them in the class of 75. I would start by looking at boys in that same class or a year either way a year forward or back most likely a local who knew all three woman at least casually. Being that age myself I know that a lot of years have passed since then, I’d start by seeing who went down an obviously bent path and start there…

  444. David XLEO says:

    After retiring with 35 years behind a badge, I know there are only two reasons for murder. Love and hate. Love of money, hate for the person killed, or love of killing, using some person even random, as a hate object, or even hate of ones self, projecting it onto someone else. Folks like to say the killer is crazy, or sick. Sometimes, but rarely. Most are just evil. Lots of love or hate reasons.
    First, ask, who stands to gain. Second, look at the evidence at the scene. What is there that does not fit, and what should be there that is missing.
    Third, what is the nature of the big picture of the offense.
    I recall when this Dyersville case happened. Knowing both DCI agents mentioned above,
    It is fair to assume they were as thorough as was possible. There are lots of things not made public to protect the investigation.
    What caliber bullet was found in the body. Was an empty ammo casing found at the scene. Was there a bullet missing from an otherwise full box in the house.
    Was a gun normally in the house missing. We’re gunshot residue tests taken. Were
    clothes of those present in the house seized. We’re there polygraph exams taken.
    Did anyone in the house at the time contact an attorney in a short amount of time
    after the murder.
    Was there life insurance on the deceased. Was it recently changed, or purchased.
    Who collected on the policy.
    Did someone suspected fairly soon move or leave the area.
    We do not know all of these things, but investigators may.
    But knowing and proving are two different things.
    Sometimes justice and the law are third cousins, at best.

  445. Michael D Rogers says:

    I’m Michael David Rogers. Son of Melvin Gallagher. Sad to report,still no good leads.At this point, I have come to grips knowing I will leave this earth when the Lord calls me and will never know who killed my biological Father until I get to the Glory Land.Thank you so much for everyone who cared and still does, Much love. Michael David Rogers

    • Ash says:

      Hi Michael, I hope and pray you get the answer you are looking for. You sound like an amazing person and I bet you father is with you every day. Much love to you!!

      • Michael David Rogers says:

        thank you so much means a lot!!!

        • PJ says:

          Do you know who your half twin sisters are from your father’s fiancee Gloria?? Just curious if you would want to know that information?? I am so very sorry that this case has never been solved. It sounds like you have experienced a lot of heartbreak in your life. Prayers for you as you continue this journey.

        • PJ says:

          I left a comment for you on Melvin Gallaghers’s page.

    • PJ says:

      Do you know your half twin sisters from your father’s fiancee Gloria?? Just curious if you would want to know that information?? I am so very sorry that this case has never been solved. It sounds like you have experienced a lot of heartbreak in your life. Prayers for you as you continue this journey.

    • A.M. says:

      Have you ever contacted this Gloria or your half twin sisters to see if they had any info?

  446. Debbie says:

    I have watched this case in the past and watched again tonight. I think that Jason Carter killed his mother. I watch cases all the time. I find that infidelity is a common denominator in a lot of cases like this. If his mother had learned of his affair and his knowing that his inheritance could be in jeopardy, I think he could definitely kill her before she told his father. But, a statement he made in passing was a key for me. He said that when his brother left home, his dad forced him to do all the chores his brother left behind even though he felt he was too young to carry the load. I think he resented that, and he felt he was entitled to the land and money he would inherit. He would have gone on cheating and living his life had his mother not gotten in his way. He wasn’t going to take the chance of his father finding out and taking him out of the will. I think he knew too much when he called 911. I don’t think the judge told the jury to find him innocent. I do think the police did a lousy job of investigating the crime. If they had done their job, the truth probably would have come out.

  447. Ravin Jessop says:

    I think the father did it why would he try and commit suicide not once but twice come on now

    • Cindy says:

      I totaly agree. He was the last person to see her before the son found her.

      • Linnette says:

        Cindy, Ravin, Tracy, and whomever else is implying the father, he’d husband was the last to see/hear/talk to/know she was alive. You need to know 2 things about the father/husband/Bill Sr. When he left the house after getting coffee with her, he inadvertently pulled out in front of his neighbor at 7:41AM. (Neighbor testified to being looking at the time on his car click, and further more, he continues to drive behind Bill Sr. to the gravel and then highway, North and East (where Bill Sr. picks up his semi, at a farm in Pleasantville, approx. 15 miles from home).
        So give or take we are now at about 7:55-8:00AM.
        Bill checked his semi tires as always is his practice with a hammer. (To some, this may sound different, but if you’re old school, or even taught by an old schooler on semi grain hauling, this is common. You hit each of the “18 wheels” with a hammer to see they are solid, check lights and note any fluid leaks, safety for transport. Basically it is a quick walk around. He says his semi is loaded from the day before with corn, ready to go to Cargill, about 50-60 minutes away to deliver grain. He states he waited a few moments for the diesel to run, not a long time, because it is was a sunny day, warm, 6/19/15. He then pulls out, and heads to Cargill with his own set goal of 9:00 AM arrival. The camera at Cargill shows him pulling in the gates at 9:01AM.
        Meanwhile, Shirley (wife, mom) has filled out a voting ballot for the Iowa Corn Board voting for Donny Hunerdose. Why? Because they’d seen Donny at Casey’s when they got coffee, prior to Bill Sr. taking Shirley back home. Donny tells them he hopes he doesn’t mind that he sent them a ballot and would appreciate their vote. They tell him no problem, and Shirley tells Donny she will fill it out right when she gets home.
        Then, she apparently notices there’s a number to call the vote in. She removes the stamp from the already filled out envelope (the stamp is on the desk, the ballot and envelope are found in the kitchen trash by her daughter and turned over to DCi/Sherriff’s.).
        KEY **Between 8:44AM, and 8:47AM, Shirley makes FIVE calls to two phone numbers from their HOME phone and submits their vote on the phone (records and testimony in criminal trial by the Corn Board Rep of the received vote and copy of the Corn board’s records. Also, the Home phone company records 5 dialed calls to the 2 numbers for that time period. Short calls. She was alive. Bill Sr. Was about 50 minutes away from the home. So he did NOT leave her shot with two high powered rifle shots through her lungs and heart. He did not kill her. I hope this clears some things up. I understand it is difficult to make sense if the timeline if you’re not looking through everything very thoroughly and if you don’t listen to testimony that is crucial, yet was not spelled out and summarized by the prosecutor..unfortunately. I am their niece. My cousin is Jason. If you want clarification like this and it is not sealed, I am willing to offer any answers I can.

        • Theresa Winterling says:

          Murder for hire by Bill Sr

        • F says:

          Still afraid of Bill, Linnette? Or is the inheritance you think is coming your way giving you the courage to persevere?

          • Linnette says:

            Dearest F,
            Inheritance. That’s a terrible thing to say. I’ve never in my life thought I would inherit anything from anyone. This remains true today. Afraid of anyone? Not at all, but thank you for your concern.

          • Linnette says:

            Also, Dearest F. You are so inclined to accuse me of the greed others have, why do you not state your comment with your name? You said my name without issue. Please show the same courage. Thanks.

  448. David says:

    Hi Jody,
    Do you think Kevin Petersen is possibly connected to the house fires in 2017? The Loose family house burned Christmas day killing four people. Four days earlier, a relatives house burned killing four people. Both fires are listed as cause undetermined.
    Maybe he set these fires in an attempt to silence anyone bringing attention to the Kim Loose case. Maybe it was an attempt to destroy the records and transcripts obtained by Julie Loose. The case had been receiving an increase in media attention in the few years prior to the fires.

  449. Anonymous says:

    I think I might know about the last two murders in 2019….. Information was brought my way and I’m scared really to pass it on

  450. Alison Hicks says:

    Just FYI, I went to Harrison School in Council Bluffs in K through 2nd grade with Steve Lybarger (we were in the class of 1970). We were friends in 1st grade but not as much after that. I moved to another school for 3rd grade and later. I was surprised when I heard about the charges against him back then.

  451. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Jen, I agree with your comments about a long haul trucker possibly being a suspect. The FBI has has a database of these guys for a number of years. However, it makes. There is no mention of when she died. Also, it appears he may have kept her under her under wraps for at least almost 8 days.

    Also, we don’t know how she got to the concert or was getting home. So. I assume she went there alone, and that no one else she knew went to the concert.

  452. Jen says:

    Given the long distance, a long-haul truck driver could be the culprit. They should look at Clark Perry Baldwin, given the location.

  453. C. Combs says:

    Now that CeCe Moore has been able to solve multiple cases through dna from crime scenes, we have new methods and connections beyond codis. If the FBI lost tge dna, they can still submit the blanket she was wrapped in to get dna from the killer. Contact Ce Ce Moore. The dna can be pulled from the blanket and then uploaded to Gedmatch to identify the killer’s relatives and narrow it down to the one.

  454. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Jen, thanks for the information you provided. I rebooked at those childhood images and afree with Moon’s comment, that they are disturbing. It makes me wonder, if he was being abused.

  455. Jen says:

    The videos all over the internet with this young man’s name attached are extremely disturbing.There is another man of the same last name in Texas whose resemblance is too striking for this to not be a relative, possibly father or older brother, and this man was arrested for uploading child porn to the internet. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/san-antonio/news/2018/06/12/man-accused-of-uploading-child-porn-to-instagram
    Unfortunately, I am afraid that there may be some very sad history associated with this young missing man.

  456. Staci Page says:

    I am also curious why Ben Steffe – Sioux City – is not a cold case?

  457. Taylor Conley says:

    I think this case needs to be reopened. There are other women in the area who were being stalked by Davis at the time of this abduction.

  458. Tracy Wilson says:

    I think if Jason was found not guilty I believe his father needs to be looked at. Because i watched the case and believe hes the one that killed her and pointed the finger at his son.

  459. Renee Fleming ( Bauer ) says:

    Wow I remember that. And sadly to say , I know one of the guys that were mentioned who owed John money I’m not at all positive , but he , himself couldn’t shoot anyone , but I’m sure he knows exactly who did.
    I kinda knew John , thought he was a descent man. Definitely didn’t deserve getting killed.
    For John’s n Pam’s daughter , you are a very strong young lady n I’m sure ur daddy is very proud of you.
    So sorry yours was taken away from you at a young age. Mine was too , I had just turned 14 the day before mine was taken away.

  460. tryright says:

    I just watched the Guilty or Innocent and have 2 questions. Who and what is the Joe person mentioned by the reporting person as admitting he did it? Why would he be going to the Carter home for drugs, wouldn’t anyone who knew them know that Shirley would more than likely be at home in the morning and or Bill?

  461. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I read the comments on this case. I noticed that several of them mention the name of an individual, who they hear or suspect was involved in his death. What, I don’t see is any mention of a reason for this Ivan character to kill him.

    We normally expect there to be a reason. We have Jared, hanging with his girlfriend and leaving for whatever reason. He then is found dead on a interstate highway. So, this Ivan is a bad guy, but what is his connection to Jared.

    Also, I would drop a dime with the feds, if they had information that he is selling. Let them run and see what they come up with. They have investigative task forces like the U.S. Marshal’s Fugutive Strike Teams. They combine federal agents from various agencies, local law enforcement.

  462. Judy Brunow says:

    I think I went to school with Steve Lybarger he would have graduated 70-71 maybe not from AL

  463. R Michelle Kennard says:

    Was Kim’s body checked for signs of rape? From what I have read it sounds like it wasn’t. If not, Could an exhumed body still have evidence such as semen, vaginal bruising, etc.? She had injuries inconsistent with falling out of a car, but she was a young pretty girl that had been alone with three, maybe four young guys, alcohol was involved and she had been to the home of the brothers who lived near the driver of the Camaro. She had bruising on both knees. If rape had been committed while on her knees her head and neck could have been jerked and pulled harshly, and her chest wounds could have been from being held down (while on her back potentially) with too much force such as one or two guys holding her down or her chest could have been repeatedly thrust against something (while on her knees). It sounds like the deceased brother knew what happened, he was there after all, and was highly upset about it which is likely the reason he was killed. I’m so sorry about this for the family. RIP Kim.

    • tim says:

      I doubt after 34 years even with excellent embalming there would be any viable evidence then again I hope there would be. shame what happened to this girl.

    • Jody Ewing says:

      R Michelle, thank you for this question. The answer is as strange as this whole case. The autopsy report makes no reference to rape or sexual assault. Nothing. It doesn’t even state whether or not she was examined for signs of either incident. This is highly unusual.

      We have on the ICC site a case of a 6-year-old who allegedly died from burns suffered in a house fire, and her autopsy report does make mention that she was examined and that there were no signs of sexual assault or abuse. Yes, the subject is covered for a 6-year-old. I have autopsy reports for some elderly women (in 80s), who were beaten to death, and sexual assault is addressed in those autopsies, too.

      I don’t have autopsy reports on all of ICC’s female victims, but in the cases where a victim’s family member sent me a copy, sexual assault and/or rape is always addressed in the medical examiner’s report. Yet, here we have the case of a 16-year-old who died under extremely suspicious circumstances, but no mention of whether the M.E. even checked? The possible scenarios you posed are not without merit, but I wonder if any of us will ever know the full truth about what happened that night. Sometimes, what’s “not” in a report speaks volumes.

      • Amber Housey says:

        But 2 of the men present that night are still alive!

      • Michelle says:

        Thank you for the reply Jody. I believe she was raped in the case it wasn’t addressed and it would appear the M.E. was paid off or somehow involved closely with those committing the crime. They need to pull the body out and re-check it and question those 2 boys still alive. Unbelievable! This is just so disturbing!

  464. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Mr. Brown, I was reading up on Ted Bundy, last night. It appears most of his victims were in major cities. He fled east and was Ann Arbor, Michigan. He stole a car there and drove to Atlanta. Georgia. In Atlanta, he took a bus to Florida. He grabbed a 12 year old, and killed her.

    He entered a Florida State Iniversity dorm and atrackedcseveral victims there. I did not see material that he spent any time in Iowa. I was looking at some cases to see if there was any other cases around the country involving a red on color Volkwagen. There were five girls who were abducted in Jacksonville. Florida over a three month period, in 1974. In one case there was a reference to Ted Bundy and a Volkswagen, however his was either tan or brown.

    I also came across a case out of Springfield, Missouri. A young girl disappeared and may have been seen by a blue in color Chevrolet. I seem to remember another case involving that color vehicle.

    Maybe the new comments by Amanda., can provide some details that she may know.

  465. coltsfan1961 says:

    He must have worked for cash all the while or his social security number activity would have alerted authorities.

  466. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Mr. Elledge, hopefully with the recent cold case arrests, this might the DCI to rebook at this case. If the cases are connected as it would seem and it involves two different jurisdictions, then it would seem that the DCI should take the lead on this case. It should be somewhat easy for them to put together.

    It has been my idea that the Attorney Generals of our 50 states should create a Statewide Cold Case Unit. These units would have the staff, to tell at these cases especially in those jurisdictions which don’t have the staff and resources to investigate.

  467. Thomas Ryan says:

    I’m a genealogy nut working on Iowa family links when I came across Patricia’s “Find-A-Grave” posting and a link to the case. Wonder if with all the advances in DNA profilling, whether the police have any viable crime scene DNA that could be tested. The “GenMatch.org” site in Canada can and has been used in a number of cold cases over the last few years to solve cases that have gone cold for many years. Either of Gene’s sons could have their DNA tested so that it could be used to screen out Gene’s DNA from the crime samples. That might identify a DNA of a possible suspect.

    I’ve used the sight to validate whether a possible ancester is or is not a long lost relative.

    • Kristy M Whitney says:

      I was wondering the same as well, I have been looking into all the DNA stuff and the genmatch and how they have solved some cold cases. Being this is family, I would love to see it solved! I have my beliefs and am curious to know how right I am?

  468. Bill says:

    It would seem Curtis Padgett has been significantly slandered here…very one-sided. Surly Padgett was thoroughly investigated. Why a section was titled Bullied becomes the Bully is ridiculous…the article is about one student’s recollection of a bullied student easily angered or agitated…that doesn’t equate to being a bully. Shame on this website for including that information is such a way.

  469. MikeD says:

    Trucker Clark Perry Baldwin of Waterloo, IA who was recently arrested for 4 more unsolved homicides is being investigated for this one as well as Tammy Zywicki’s. Very interesting.
    https://www.dailypress.com/news/crime/dp-nw-trucker-iowa-charged-slayings-gloucester-woman-20200507-2njxl2ed4nehpiz7mj5sa3s5k4-story.html

    • Matt P. says:

      Do a side by side comparison of the composite sketch from 1991 to a picture of Clark Perry Baldwin today. It’s literally a dead ringer.

      • Jody Ewing says:

        Matt, yes, the original composite sketch is literally a dead ringer to Clark Perry Baldwin. By the way, I’d noticed that under the Cedar Rapids Gazette clipping, I’d inadvertently written the year 1991 when it should have been 1992. I’ve corrected the date, and also added the flyer that officials mailed out to over 1,500 news bulletins shortly after the crime. Thanks for your input!

  470. Bill Green says:

    Clark Perry Baldwin just arrested for 1991 and 1992 murders in Wyoming and Tennessee. A long-haul trucker from Iowa. Any chance he’s the man?
    https://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/authorities-arrest-waterloo-man-in-connection-to-wyoming-cold-case-murders/article_3a0049bc-677e-54bf-b7a3-a07b1248a400.html

    • Ash says:

      I think there is a possibility! The timing is right and everything. The only issue I saw with it was the manner of death between Tammy and the women Dennis killed.

    • MikeD says:

      Illinois police have since stated that he isn’t a suspect in the Tammy Zywicki case. Considering how many details are similar to other cases that Clark Perry Baldwin is a suspect in you would think they wouldn’t dismiss the idea so easy. They must have some evidence that clearly points to someone else.

  471. Veronica Lack says:

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    Quid Pro Quo

    Trump’s Republican Administration REDACTED access to the EPA and NRCS Data utilized by Adam’s “RUSLE3” in February of 2017, when Trump started removing “SCIENCE” from our federal government agencies. This covered-up/hid Big Oil and AG Chemical Conglomerates products’ test results of their contamination of US Water and Soils. The hidden test data included Anhydrous Ammonia and Inorganic Arsenic Herbicides and Pesticide and Insecticide DATA, now these tests are at higher levels in US Tap Water in 2020. It may be to late for some American’s/Iowan’s health as some of these long-lasting, inorganic, non-biological chemicals are building up and testing over the MCL’s for these nitrite chemicals in more of US Source Waters/well’s water and even Des Moines, Urbandale, and Waukee’s Iowa’s Tap Water as even the best Water Plants are not as able to safely treat or filter these NITRITES from our drinking water.

  472. Skyler Gallup says:

    I know I was probably only 4 and I don’t remember you but I grew up knowing your story grandma I love you and they got him! I hope you can lay peacefully now much love

    • Kayla Ridnour says:

      U should feel sorry for his family to have to go through this.

      • John says:

        Kayla no she shouldn’t, if proven guilty your husband killed a 73 year old women. He deserves to rot in a cage for the rest of his life. He is also a registered sex offender so maybe they can go after you next for child endangerment for allowing a sex offender in the home with your children. Your comment disgust me.

  473. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    The Oxygen Network is looking at Jodi case on an episode of Up & Vanished. So, hopefully it will generate some new leads. We all the new forensic tools, and cold case units that more cases would be solved.

    In my personal opinion the State of Iowa should establish a Cold Case Unit. It could be staffed by active and retired investigators, under the State Attorney General. My thoughts behind it are based on testing novels by J.A. Janice. One of her characters re tut fires from Seattle homicide and gets a job with the State of Washington Attorney General’s Special Homicide Investigative Team. Everyone can figure the shortened version of the name is.

    But, the idea of having state wide jurisdiction gives them a lot of clout is we say here in Chicago. The feds have used joint task forces for a number of years. A prime example are the Federal Fugutive Task Forces that the U.S. Marshal’s in regions around the country

    The mix of people bring all kinds of knowledge, experience, etc to these groups. Also, it would take a burden off the locals, especially ones, where the local agency has some ghosts in their closet that might not want exposed. This is where I would like the federal agents to step in. But, the FBI has been busy investigating some disinformation they got from Val’s old friends in the KGB, or whatever name they use.

  474. Tenley says:

    Hi Patrick, (previous commenter) thanks for the reply and the background information. Yes, I believe the daughter as well. Her comment sounded very credible, and your added information further backs that up. I looked her up on Facebook shortly after she left that comment, but it looked like she hadn’t been active in a few years and I was hesitant to reach out regardless.

    I really want more information on this guy. Too bad Jody isn’t responding either. At least we have more information than before.

    • Patrick says:

      The question I would like to ask the daughter is this. What tie might Barnes have had to the Davis family. I know he was living in Chicago, but was apparently in Sioux City the week of the crime. Where would he have stayed. According to the 1955 Directory, there was another Barnes who lived about 5 blocks from the crime scene. Even if he was staying there, he would’ve had to have had a connection to the Davis family. The timeline on the crime is just too short (less than 10 minutes). He would’ve had to have known what time she was put to bed, and had to almost be already by the window at that time. I’m not yet ready to name Barnes as the killer, but coming back to Sioux City and living in the same exact home? It sounds like the criminal returning to the scene of the crime.

      • Tenley says:

        Well she wrote in her comment that her father was visiting his brother and driving his brother’s car during the time he was in town. Apparently his brother was away serving in the military. And as far as how he knew what room Donna Sue would be in? I would not doubt that he was a Peeping Tom, and was well aware she had a crib in that room.

        • Patrick says:

          I know the Barnes 5 blocks from the scene was not a brother. I have read the obit for Charles. Thought he might have been staying there, and borrowed the car of the brother who was away in the Navy. I don’t think this guy was a Peeping Tom. Those kind of people rarely act out. Not sure how much research you have done, but you most certainly have interest. Let me know if you would like to discuss in depth some time. My interest in the case came as a result of growing up about 4 blocks away, and my mom bringing it up from time to time. I have many different theories. A classic “who dun it”, and I would love to see the case solved.

          • Patrick Kerrigan says:

            I agree with the comments in the last couple of days. We have been dealing with the comments from Mr. Barnes daughter about his involvement in the kidnapping and murder if the baby. He is from Sioux City, and was visiting family when the baby was taken. He supposedly was using a car belonging to his brother in the Navy. However, we have no information on his brothers car. We also don’t have any registration information on the vehicle mentioned in the known details.

            So, all we have to go on is the information provided by his daughter. However, there are some situations where the offender, will return to the scene, or visit the place where the victim is buried. Some of them have even kept an article of clothing from the victim, to keep the memory of the crime.

            Many years ago, I was involved in the use of video surveillance for law enforcement. The scenario was to video tape a fictional burial of the victim, with the chance that the offender would show up. We actually travelled to a Catholic Cemetery in the Westrrn suburbs of Chicago. The area for are mock burial was where members if the Capone family were buried. The other interesting part, was that several of his competitors are also buried in the same cemetery.

            So, we have more unanswered questions. But, purchasing the home points is suspicious enough to warrant more research to fill in the blanks. But how do we or investigators determine that the car that supposedly belonged to his brother matches the description of the possible vehicle used. Also, why target this baby. He comes home to visit, and supposedly decides to kidnap some baby. How does he know the baby even exists and where she was sleeping. Also, what do we know about his time in Chicago. Where did they live, work, or even why he or the family move from Sioux City. He could have connections to some unsolved cases in the Chicago area.

            • Patrick says:

              Barnes was a foreman with the Schwann Bike company in Chicago. If Barnes was in fact questioned by the FBI, and was given a polygraph 3 times as his daughter has stated, then he surely had some connection to the Davis family. The question remains, what was the connection? Something lead them to question him in Chicago. The one thing that completely puzzles me right now is that Jody Ewing has not entered this conversation. This is her Web Site, and she has spent many hours pursuing answers. I personally don’t think Jody believes it was Barnes who did the crime, although she believes she knows who did. My only question for Jody Ewing right now would be to ask if she has interviewed Barne’s daughter.

              • Tenley says:

                Ok, you have obviously done significant research on this case. I too am wondering why Jody isn’t involved anymore. I think it’s Barnes. I read his obituary too. It’s the only information I could find on him. Granted, I only think it’s him based on his daughter’s comment and his link to Sioux City.

                I think he can be a Peeping Tom AND a pedophile. Maybe he saw the child out with the family and followed them home, then waited to find out where Donna Sue slept? He doesn’t have to have a prior link to the family.

                Of course it could be someone else. I too would like to have a conversation with the daughter.

                • Patrick says:

                  Tenley ….. I hope you continue your interest in this case, and continue to pursue answers. I don’t want to speak for Jody, but I believe her involvement waned once she figured she had it solved. I will continue to investigate until I have an answer that I am comfortable with. Might be next week, next year, or maybe never. In my mind, the case is still unsolved, so I’ll keep digging. Best of luck to you!🍀

                  • Jody Ewing says:

                    Patrick, I really enjoyed speaking with you today on the phone! After our conversation, I’m sure you’ll agree that my interest in the Donna Sue Davis case has never waned. Quite the opposite, in fact. :-)

                    And I apologize for not actively participating in this conversation over the past several days; things are moving quickly on some other cases and I’ve needed to stay focused.

              • AC says:

                Barnes was a close relative and was a very sick man. His obit leaves out a long history of him.

                • Tenley says:

                  AC, please continue with your comment that Barnes was a very sick man. I’m very interested in learning more. Thank you.

                  • Aac says:

                    I am his granddaughter.

                  • aac says:

                    I’d be happy to connect off this forum. I lived with him until his death. I would do anything to help solve this if it was Charles. Also keep in mind, there have been three generations of Charles Barnes that have passed. My grandfather died in 1994.

                  • aac says:

                    Apologies, four generations. I forget one that passed before my birth.

                    • Tenley says:

                      AAC, thanks for replying. So what are your thoughts on him perpetrating this crime? The rest of your family? What did/do they think?

                    • aac says:

                      Pat is the only one who will speak up on any of the abuse he caused. I think there is great potential he did this. My understanding is he was connected to the house. Idk if he owned it with Jerry or exactly how the two had access. If I remember correctly he lived at this time on the other side of town in Morningside. So there is no connection between him living on w. 6th st. That did not happen until they purchased it in the 80s. No one in the family wants to lay a finger on being involved in something like this. I’m sure there is no surviving DNA after all these years but I wish there was.

                    • aac says:

                      I never understood why Charles moved the family so much. Again, I don’t know a ton of history, but I know they bounced around in Sioux City, Chicago, and California all the time. It never made sense. He took in all of the kids from his wife’s sister as fosters. There were too many children to logically uproot them all of the time. Pat is your best lead, she may get worked up, but she’s the only one with guts to say anything of the atrocities of this family. I don’t think Charles would have done anything alone, I think Jerry would have been involved too, but that is just my opinion.

                    • Tenley says:

                      aac, Sorry that I’m just now seeing your reply. Ok…so Barnes is your Grandfather. Wow that’s interesting. Yes, it’s my belief that he did it.

                      I would like to get my hands on the police files. Thanks so much for always being so responsive here.

  475. leiking says:

    it is sad short story .may the eldly one rest in peace without any worries of overcharge of sth else

  476. Debra says:

    I was just watching Dr.Oz and seen a story about a beautiful young girl in Ohio Siera that was murderd in 2016 they found the serial killer to me he looks as if he could fit the description of the guy on the tracks with these two little girls that one of the girls filmed. Please take a look at this Doctoroz.crimeHunters. It’s better to say something than nothing at all. Prayers for these families.

  477. MikeD says:

    The article title says David Leon Redowl Sr, which is correct. The last paragraph says David Leon Redowl Jr. It looks like his son David Leon Redowl Jr was born on May 17, 1994 and died on November 21, 2015. He he had his own son as well who is David Red Owl III.

  478. keith wolf says:

    I HEARD THAT MY UNCLE MAY HAVE BEEN A SUSPECT IN KENNY JOE JOHNSON CASE. IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME.

  479. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I was rereading all the comments posted here especially the one from Jodyin 2016. I have been reading more this child & human trafficking recently. This includes material posted on a blog on NCMEC website. Also, some articles on recent arrests by the FBI of a individual from Indiana.

    He was running a non-profit organization for Orphansbin Ukraine. The Dept of Homeland Security, and ICE assisted. They searched him upon his return f rut pm Ukraine and found computer devices with child pornography on them. He also sent a note to his son, that was intercepted, telling him to check above the ceiling of the laundry room, for another computer drive that had more images on them.

    The newest thing is Sexploiation. In which young kids are threatened to keep posting sexually explicit images or videos or else. One teenage male victim committed suicide. Another offenders threat forced police in Plainfield, Indiana to shut down schools and stores there.

    So, it’s still a problem, and it’s getting worse. So, we need to protect children, by being aware of what they are doing online. More information is available from the FBI and NCEMC. Make sure your local schools are alert of this. At my local Catholic church a FBI Special Agent, and three investigators from the Chicago Police Dept., DC did a program for the students, and then a program for parents. The attendance was small, and I was the only man, with t hff e exception of the church pastor. I don’t have kids.

    I am a former detective with the federal government, and try to keep up with what is going on in law enforcement, forensics. One of my duties, was giving crime prevention talks at a VA Hospital. So, I am big on reading and researching. It’s also important, because I have some beautiful great grandkids, that I want to protect. So be on alert and aware.

  480. Meme says:

    With all the info the was verified on the Johnny Gosch case, it is hard to believe that more info on Eugene’s case is not made available. Sam Soda actually told Noreen Gosch in June 1984 that another paperboy was going to turn up missing in the 2nd week of August 1984. This was relayed to local and federal authorities who did nothing at all. This info was verified by so many people and documented by the same. After Eugene went missing, it is clear that this was an organized kidnapping that was planned for months. This is no conspiracy theory, just do the research for yourselves and make your own conclusion. I hope they find this poor boy and give some closure to his family.

  481. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    in regards to the last comment on this case. It could be a number of reasons why they have not done anything. We talk about forensics, however how we preserve evidence compared to the early 1950’s, could be a factor. Is there any useable material for DNA testing, maybe not.

    We have the statement from Mr. Barnes daughter, which too me sounds very good, and makes think he most likely did it. However, investigators need to check and see if they can match what she said with the known details. This means checking records to verify that he was from Sioux City. So is their records to back up her claims. Is their DMV records to show that the vehicle he was supposedly registered to a family member. I don’t what the requirements are in regards to records in Ioea. Is there property records that show him buying the building.

    So all this has to be put together and then presented to a prosecutor. He or she has to review them and decide yes this meet the standards that they would require to prosecute the case in court if the kidnapping took place recently and not over 60 some years ago.

    In regards to records, the federal government has records that are stored in the National Archives. They have regional document centers.

    • Patrick says:

      I have verified through Sioux City directories from the early ‘60’s that Charles Barnes did in fact reside at the 715 Isabella address. This seems very suspect to me, and gives credibility to his daughters story. I have researched this horrific case for years, but have no concrete evidence. I would love to sit down and talk with his daughter. Also, I have reached out to Jody Ewing several times via email, but have yet to received a reply. I still believe someone out there knows for certain who did this.

      • Patrick Kerrigan says:

        Patrick, I would to hear her story also. The problem is that law enforcement and definitely a prosecutor should be doing the interview. However, it appears that a number of law enforcement agencies don’t to spend the time or money to deal a case this old. Some of them may have replaced or lost the original case file, and may not even have the evidence.

        In Chicago, there is the case of the Grimes sisters who disappeared after leaving a Southside movie theater in the 1950,’s. A number if years ago, a retired investigator held a talk in a park near where they lived. A woman came forward that was with them the night they disappeared. She never said anything to anyone about it. Her mother would have killed her. So he referred her to Chicago Police Cold Case detectives. We heard nothing since.

        However, we had a wealthy older woman, connected to the Brach Candy company. She disappeared after visiting the Mayo Clinic. A number of years later an informant for an ATF agent called him and gave him a tip that lead to an arrest in the disappearance and murder of three boys The Peterson and Schuesller. That led to an arrest and conviction over 40 years later.

        In McLennan County, Texas, they established a Cold Caae Unit, they recently announced that a deceased man, was responsible fir6the kidnapping and murder of a teenager walking home from a party. The victim’s mother came up with motto “Answering the Unanswered Questions”. Some agencies have used the new forensic tools and investigative resources to finally close they cold cases.

        Here in Chicago they have not spent the resources to determine who killed a number of women of color, who were found deceased. Most of the victims appear to have been working the street to support a drug habit. They were waiting on DNA to identify a suspect. But, there are other things they could be doing.

        The FBI has a program called VICAP. It’s a computerized program to analyze unsolved violent crimes. However, its optional to agencies to enter their cases. It will look at certain information and see that an unsolved violent crime committed in Las Vegas, might be connected to a similar violent crime in Miami, Florida. However, I have heard it’s a very hard program to use especially entering data.

        In Canada, the RCMP has a similar program. However, every law enforcement agency is required to enter their cases. So, there is a lot of issues in solving some of these cold cases. Many of them financial and others are political. We have the example of media reporting on missing people, especially for white people, but less attention to persons of color. I don’t understand that at all. Yet, the major media will rant about racism, and ignore this serious issue of their racism, and alerting their viewers.

      • Jody Ewing says:

        Patrick,

        You stated in your message above that you had “researched this horrific case for years,” and alleged you’d “reached out to [me] several times via email” but had yet to receive a reply. I don’t know where you sent these alleged emails about Donna Sue Davis, but I can say with 100% certainty you did not send them to me.

        I have kept every single email I’ve sent or received concerning any Iowa cold case since 2004, and, aside from the recent comments you’ve publicly made here on Donna Sue’s case summary page (and one public comment left on this page on Feb. 25, 2015), you have never contacted me personally about her case. Your last email to me was dated Jan. 13, 2020, and concerned the death of a young woman found murdered in Downers Grove, Illinois, in the 1970s. Prior to that, you’d sent an email Jan. 6, 2020, re the death of the man who raped and strangled 11-year-old Julie Fuller in Fort Worth, TX. No references were made to Donna Sue in either of those emails.

        If you have copies of the emails you say you sent to me (I’m assuming you save yours, too), I would ask that you please resend to me because, for whatever reason, I did not receive them.

        As far as you having researched this case for years, may I ask: Have you spoken with Capt. Lisa Claeys at the Sioux City Police Dept.? Or the chief of police, Rex Mueller? Have you spoken with former police chief Joe Frisbie? Any of the other past/present investigators with the SCPD’s investigative division? Anyone who has done so would know why they can’t just release the name of the (now deceased) primary suspect (nor can I). It would be entirely different if they were able to clear/close the case by exceptional means. Were that to happen, the SCPD would then be able to publicly identify the perpetrator.

        I’m aware of your experience working as a detective for the Veteran’s Administration where you investigated incidents of patients’ missing personal property or government property (and sometimes when a patient would leave the facility and be reported as missing), and you’ve also told readers multiple times (through comments on other victims’ pages) that you served with the Coast Guard Reserve during Desert Shield/Storm in the Persian Gulf and on a US Navy attack submarine during the Cold War and Vietnam era, and for that, I sincerely thank you for your service. I also think you would have made a helluva good homicide detective had you chosen that route.

        There will always be more questions than answers in any murder case (solved or unsolved), but right now, I’m hoping you can find those emails you said you sent and forward them to me with the header info intact that would verify the times and dates sent. You do have my correct email address b/c I did receive those two from January (on the out-of-state cases) and had responded Jan. 12. All best, Jody @ ICC

        • Patrick says:

          Hi Jody …. There is no intent on my part to get off on the wrong foot here. I think you have me confused with someone else for some of the post. The only emails I have ever sent to you were concerning the Davis case. There were no others. Perhaps you have me mixed up with Mr. Kerrigan, whose first name is also Patrick. I did not serve in the Coast Guard, but rather the Marine Corps back in the early ‘70’s. I did send 2 or 3 emails regarding the Davis case, and if I can find them I will resend. If I remember correctly, I was only asking if I could sit down with you some time to discuss the case. I tried recently to get in touch with Lisa, but she is out on an extended leave. She was the only officer I wanted to speak with as I knew she had followed the case so closely. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding, and I would look forward to meeting you if you would choose to do so. I live in Dakota Dunes, SD, so not that far away from you. I realize at the present time, no one really wants to meet anyone due to the virus. I for one really appreciate what you do, as well as your website. My most sincere regards …. Patrick Enright

          • Jody Ewing says:

            Yes, I did indeed mix up the comments between you and the other Patrick. The career and military background I provided was for Patrick Kerrigan. At any rate, there are no hard feelings whatsoever and I fully support and encourage the ongoing conversation here! Many thanks to all of you!

        • Patrick Kerrigan says:

          I have not sent a bunch of emails on this case. I have been commenting on what the other Patrick and others have made in regards to this case. My comments are more in line if suggesting possible reasons why they may not be able to act on the information provided by Mr. Barnes daughter.

          I would be interested in the time frame that Mr. Barnes and family lived in Chicago. Also, where they lived. We had a couple of cases of young boys, the Peterson and Schuesler that were found murdered in a Cook County Forest Preserve. Over 40 years later an arrest was made, and the alleged offender was convicted. However, we also the Grimes sisters from December 28, 1956, who disappeared after seeing a Elvis movie. They were found dead, in a ditch along a road in suburban DuPage County.

          I would think that investigators would love to be able to close this case. However, can they independently verify the information provided by Mr. Barnes daughter. This is important, when they decide to provide it to a prosecutor. Are their any DMV records stored somewhere that would show that his brother had a car, that matches the vehicle described.

          Also for the other Patrick. I also served in the U.S. Navy, Navy Reserve, Army Reserve, prior to the Coast Guard Reserve. I want thank him for his service in the U.S.M.C.

          • Patrick says:

            I think it’s all good now Patrick. Jody just got confused seeing 2 Patrick’s posting, and thinking it was one, and we both got lumped together. No big deal. Thank you for your service as well.👍

            • Patrick Kerrigan says:

              That’s the problem, we look alike and use the 1st name. Also, some commentors sort of seem to think that it is Jody’s job is to take some of are comments, assumptions on these cases and go to the investigative agency and pass along what we think is the bad guy or gal.

              One of the things about Mr. Barnes, that threw me for a loop, was a genealogy website indicated that he had two brothers, both now deceased. Well, I found an obituary for his mother in the Sioux City newspaper. It mentions she was survived by five sons and one daughter. The two known brothers Jerry and Darrell Barnes, were born in 1941 and 1943 respectively making them too young to have been in the Navy, when Donna was abducted and murdered.

              What, I would like to know is where he lived in Chicago. However, he was back in Sioux City, by the time his mother died in February 1983. I was looking at a couple of other unsolved disappearances and murders in Chicago, in the 1950’s and 1960’s. I found that the Schwinn Factory was located on the 1700 block of North Kildare. This is on the near northwest side of the city. Also, when did they move to Chicago.

              The other question is what supposedly led to him to start molesting children. I don’t know if it is learned behavior.

              • Patrick says:

                I’m not a psychiatrist, but as far as everything I’ve read over time, pedophiles just are what they are. Some of the other questions regarding Barnes could most likely be answered by his daughter. You should be able to access Chicago directories through the Chicago library system. I believe the family moved back to Sioux City around 1962.

                • Patrick Kerrigan says:

                  Patrick, the libraries are closed down. I am used to digging through various databases in my south suburban community. They have some interesting databases to play with. My only problem is they got rid of some I used. But, they had no way to track if they were being used, or advertising that they had these various databases. I stumbled upon a link to a Chicago Genealogy Group, from there was a link to various stories on the Chicago Mob, during Capone’s time. One article was about a coroner’s panel investigating the Valentines Day Massacre. It went to show that a couple of wealthy businessmen spent money to bring in a Dr. Goddard, to review the crime scene. He determined that two Thompson machines guns, one with a straight 20 round magazine and a 50 round drum magazine were used. This Dr. Goddard is sort of considered the Father of Ballistics. He established a crime lab and conducted training in Chicago. One of his attendees came from the FBI and he pushed J Edgar Hoover to establish their crime lab.

                  • Dakota Kenney says:

                    Hello, I am not sure if any of you still frequent this website, but I have recently been researching this case using the information from this forum/website. After scouring old newspapers, directories, etc. I do have a handful of people, but nowhere near enough information. Concerning Mr. Barnes: He indeed did live at the residence in the early 60’s. He was not however, the owner. I went through the old deed records of the property, and the Davis family purchased the duplex in 1951. After the 1955 incident, newspapers show the were attempting to sell immediately, but were not able to close until 1961, which it was then sold to Mr. Davenport (real estate mogul from the area) who I am assuming rented to Mr. Barnes. So, immediately after the Davis family sold the property, Mr. Barnes moves in. There is an add attempting to sell a Pontiac 2 door Sedan, with this address listed as the location, during the time he was living there. There is more I have but I want to see who is still out there researching.

        • Tenley says:

          Jody, Could you please state the reason the name cannot be
          released? The wording is a bit off, I understand you will not
          release a name, but perhaps tell us why? Thank you.

  482. A. Haverkamp says:

    This case came to my attention as I was reading about Corrine Perry’s and Colleen Simpson’s cases. It is appalling to me that Robert A Rolfe, past Union County Attorney and attorney in Lamoni, Iowa, has an active law license, but it appears he has failed to come forth on this case. In addition, it appears that Jule A Sturzenegger Loy Gray continues to reside in the Des Moines/Ankeny area. Apparently Imogene Loy Ransier Kelly passed away November 2018? Was an obituary every found for her? Is this case being actively worked by the DCI or a cold case unit? It has been 5 years since the 2015 push on this case, the parties to the case are entering their elderly years with two being deceased, and it has been 47 years since Ms. Konecne was allegedly murdered. What can be done to push this case forward so that the truth can be brought to light? Ms. Konecne’s parents and brother are deceased but she has nieces and nephews that deserve the truth as to her demise. Thank you.

  483. Tenley says:

    Ok, so a commenter tells us a suspect, then that suspects daughter comments that yes, she believes her father Charles K. Barnes did indeed do this horrific crime. My question is why hasn’t Jody come back to verify or deny? She knows who it is. The police know who it is, or have a very strong case. Reading the daughters comment, I believe her.

  484. Adam Kimball 2 says:

    I’m still on the case. -Adam Kimball 2

    • Stay Strong, Fight For Justice says:

      I’m very sorry for you loss. She seemed like a great young lady with a bright future.

      If you feel comfortable answering, do you have any reason to believe this was anything beyond a tragic accident?

    • Sam says:

      And you better never give up either. If you want to reach out, send me an email sammykeyes23@gmail.com. I’m a death investigator.

  485. Danelle Pleas says:

    Lybarger was living with his mother in Council Bluffs in 1985/1986 time frame. Some family members still believe he’s guilty of the crime.

  486. Laura says:

    Do you have any updates on him?

    • Neil says:

      I have one. After I watched a YouTube video about someone going inside an abandoned party house, I looked at the calendar in the house that said March 1999, with the day 16 circled. So, I believe he might have planned to leave that day if he lived in that house/location.

  487. MikeD says:

    Today is Erin’s 34th birthday. I’m another person who knew Curtis Padgett from school and I don’t really have anything good to say about him. I don’t really remember seeing him around in high school so I think he dropped out or transferred to Metro High School. He wasn’t a good student. I’m not saying he did anything to Erin, but I wouldn’t trust his story.

    • MikeD says:

      It’s been a year, but I’ve talked to some friends that also know Curtis from school and they backed up what another comment on this page said about him being homeless. The last time Curtis was a blip on anyone’s radar was in 2019 when he received a public intoxication charge in Linn County and he still owes $147.75 for it according to court records.

  488. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Kimber, I have lived in Chicago and now in one of the suburbs. I never heard of her case. At the time she disappeared I was in the U.S. Navy home ported in Connecticut. I have researched missing persons on the Chicago Tribune archives, but don’t remember seeing her name.

    If it is her dumping her body in the Mississippi River, is along way from Chicagi. Also, I wonder what was going on at Harlan High School, in July 1973. I would assume that the schools were closed for summer vacation. Also, she would have been still in grammar school at 12 years old.

    The other problem is that missing kids at that time normally did not get a lot of attention. However, certain street gangs were prevalent at the time. However, they did not get a lot of attention in the media, until a number of years later.

  489. chad lynch norfolk va says:

    HINRICHS/LEONARD CASES Same guy Both bars late at night Less than a mile apart Less than 10 months apart Both robbery/homicide I think guy was patron at both bars Maybe somebody knows these questions 1 Why does he shoot LEONARD but not the witness he confronts 2 no witness composite sketch 3 Why does HINRICHS mother think she knew her killer ?

  490. MikeD says:

    “Some of the older deputies who were around then said maybe somebody out of Chicago or Milwaukee had a pregnant girlfriend and got rid of her. We might never know,”

    That just rubs me the wrong way. It’s still kind of the same situation in Eastern Iowa. If a crime happens and someone black is involved, the authorities just assume it’s Chicago related. It’s not just the authorities, a lot of the public thinks that too.

    That being said, Kimber’s mention of Shirley Magee is still very interesting.

  491. Kimber says:

    I believe the female was Shirley Magee from Chicago, IL. I do not know if the authorities ruled her out but she matches, height, weight description, and although decomp made age difficult, she does does fall within the range given by the examiner. She went missing in 1973, but in the 70’s it wouldn’t have been hard to leave a possible bad environment with a guy that showed interest in a young lady.

  492. Sarah says:

    I’m a medium. I get a lot of clairaudient messages. I don’t know Jesse. For some reason I keep getting the message that the answer is in his phone and that he was there to meet someone he was talking to on an app., a woman I think. She was not there for what he thought she was and someone else took him out of the truck. This is just the message that I’m getting. I felt a strong need to share it with you. I hope this does not offend anyone. I hope that he is found safe.

  493. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Andrea, thanks for the information. It then begs the question of his ethnic background. Also, might that led to his disappearance.

    • Jody Ewing says:

      Patrick and andreadole2, I have updated what other little information I could find for this missing person. The Iowa Department of Public Safety’s “Missing Person Information Clearinghouse” page lists the basic known facts about each individual’s disappearance, and slightly more information is shared with NamUs.gov for the listing on that respective website.

      Here at the Iowa Cold Cases website (an Iowa nonprofit organization), our goal is to provide names of homicide victims whose cases have not yet been solved, as well as provide information about persons who went missing under suspicious or mysterious circumstances. The data we provide in each case summary is based on a number of factors, including that which law enforcement agencies have chosen to make public, information shared with us by victims’ family members via emails or phone conversations, and any other additional details we find through published news stories and/or news archives.

      We find comments like those from andreadole2 quite helpful, and are appreciative that they took the time to help us add to the person’s story. We want our readers to get to know the person behind the name because people care about those with whom they can identify. It’s a fluid process and it takes time. Information comes from unexpected places at unexpected times, and it’s far more productive when it focuses on the victim’s background and/or the reader’s knowledge or shared experiences with them.

      So often, we’re asked questions we can’t possibly answer. There is often a reason investigators “must” hold specific and/or critical details close to the vest; seasoned detectives fully understand this concept and how it might compromise an ongoing investigation. Other times, they simply don’t know b/c witnesses fear retaliation if they speak out. It’s an unfortunate but ongoing conundrum.

      We do the best we can with whatever information is provided to us, and we never purposely write case summaries to include as little info as possible.

      Jody at ICC

  494. andreadole2 says:

    Also, his real name is Adexe, not Jesse. https://vk.com/id377714630

  495. andreadole2 says:

    The police and state don’t take good notes and seem to be unable to reason. This man’s surname is Nimaja Pol, not Nimagajapol.

  496. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Steven, I agree that matchbook might have been connected to a business in Ohio. I would think that if his remains had been found closer to Interstate 80, then maybe I might agree that he was heading towards California. But, he was way north of 80, unless he liked taking a round about to California.

    I wonder if something else not released might have led them to assume he was headed to California.

    • Teresa says:

      what business in ohio, it does not state, he looks alot like Leon Moncer to me and he looks like this clay model

  497. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Mike, it appears that maybe some piece of clothing or maybe the matchbook, could have provided them to assume that he might be headed to California from Ohio
    The use of the term may, to means they assumed something
    Since, we don’t have the case report to see what gave them the idea he was headed to California.

    I might agree with the assumption, if he was found close to or near Interstate 80. He was off the beaten track. What bugs me that he appears not to have been reported missing. But then I was thinking about “The Buckskin Girl, that was found in Ohio, a number of years ago. She was finally identified through DNA Genealogy. Her mother never reported her missing.

    However, I was a police officer and detective, we would use the term, appears, especially describing an item. I worked on a number of reports in a VA hospital involving missing patient’s property. A patient would say they had a gold watch. I would check the inventory sheets from his E.R. admission and what the nurses wrote up on a form, when the patient got to the ward. It used to bug me that the nurses would use the words gold or whatever color watch or ring it was.

    That was one of my pet peeves. I had more issues on how they handled patient property when the patient went to surgery or was transferred to another unit. I was big on digging through medical records looking for answers to the questions I had.

    I have a few stories from two different VA hospitals that I worked at.

  498. Eddie Hickman says:

    I contacted the police about someone that I believe to be missing and they only called the person. I believe she is being held against her will and the people holding her has her phone what should I do now

    • Barb says:

      Call in a welfare check- I believe the usual is for them to physically check on the person. Wouldn’t hurt.

  499. Allie says:

    I know this sounds awful, but if the baby was sleeping in the room with the mom… she saw the fire started there, she left the baby and alerted the others…

    At 15 days, she’s probably feeling the baby blues or early onset of post-partum depression. I would look into her.

  500. Jim F. says:

    April 2, 2020. A local restaurant owner was arrested on sex abuse charges Wednesday.

    Hershal James “Jim” Ratliff, 69, of Council Bluffs, is charged with four counts of sexual abuse in the third degree, one count of lascivious acts with a minor, one count of soliciting commercial sexual activity and one count indecent exposure, according to a press release from the Council Bluffs Police Department.

    Ratliff is the owner of Jimmy’s All-American Malt Shop & Grill in Council Bluffs.

    https://www.nonpareilonline.com/news/crime/local-restaurant-owner-arrested-on-sex-abuse-charges/article_a50b3fba-74ef-11ea-839f-ef097e50fae6.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=user-share

  501. JAKE says:

    It’s almost April 2020 and no leads; no arrests; no justice; no nothing!
    I remember hearing about this and thinking it must have been someone out of state. I couldn’t remember any other robberies / home invasions / murders that happened before or after this incident. The person or persons who done it had to be watching them for a while. I bet he even made, at least, 1 visit to the home to scope it out. I don’t know, but now it’s been 8-9 years later — does the DCI have any better possibilities?
    I remember the video of the guy getting out of the stolen truck in Kansas City. Ok, did they check for ANY DNA? Did they find anything?? This makes me think there was more than 1 person involved. How did the guy get to their house? If they met at this Stuart Auction – any close surveillance cameras? Showing video of Bill & Kay’s vehicle with the same vehicle (suspicious) behind them?
    It’s just so hard for me to believe that the DCI has no leads or any new news in the past several years.
    I feel sorry for that family. I can’t even imagine. I hope the DCI is speaking with them every once in a while — even just to say they have no new leads; does anyone have anything new to share that they remember; or simply how are you guys doing? Would be a nice gesture that they care and are still actively pursuing this case.
    I hope to turn on the news one day, and this mystery is found to be solved.

    • Tornado_Jay_Tee07 says:

      I am sure this case is listed everywhere – but I am going to make sure it’s listed everywhere! My goodness…The DCI….. **SIGH**

      Tornado_Jay_Tee07 or JAKE

    • Cheryl says:

      Just saw 48 hours and the case of Isreal Reyes. Someone like this would explain why there have been no leads. This murderer committed suicide before they could identify all the people he killed. He had no pattern.

  502. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I took another look at the disappearance of Mr. Doerring. I mentions that he was depressed over the death of his son Peter. It did not mention how depressed he was. It made me think of another missing person case out of New Jersey from sometime in 1994.

    A Renee LaManna, 35, fled from her sisters place in Ocean City. It appears she had a serious mental health breakdown, that her sister called ‘Dissociative Fugue Disorder’. As usual my reaction was the heck is that. It’s a sub type of amnesia, where a person under severe depression, PTSD, marital discord, or a death in the family may trigger this condition.

    It appears that this condition causes the person to completely forget, their personal history, to include name, age, and other identifying information and flee the source of pain of sorts. Some of people have many miles away from their home. The first documented case in the U.S. was an Ansel Bourne in 1880,’s. The last name Bourne my seem familiar from some books and movies. They quite often assume a new name.

    The condition is considered rare, but some medical research papers written seem to believe there are more cases then they are aware of. There are two individuals I came across where the missing person has had two or more episodes of this condition. One of them was a Hannah Upp.

    A journalist from Tacoma, Washington disappeared a number of years ago. She was found in a shopping mall in Aurora, Colorado, confused and disoriented. She was admitted for treatment and was discharged using a new name. She took some college classes, and then moved to Alaska. She got married to a fisherman, and had two kids.

    About 12 years after she disappeared the Tacoma, classified her disappearance as a Homicide. When, the story appeared on the news, someone in As Alaska suggested that tut ge Tacoma Police check out this woman. Well, they went to Alaska, and took pictures and confirmed it was her. They should the pictures to her parents. They asked who the guy and the kids were. They now had a son-in-law, and two grandkids. They came to a family reunion and she did not recognize her family.

    I have wondered if one of the experts in this could develop a profile of some of these missing persons might have developed this condition. I have come across a few cases where people, with some recent deaths in the family, or there are reports that the missing person was acting strangely or made bizarre comments on social media, might have developed this condition.

    I commented previously, that there was no mention of any property in his vehicle. I would assume that his residence was checked. But, it’s not mentioned in was is available.

    P.S. I am not an expert on this condition, but have come across some interesting articles especially one on Hannah Upp. The last time she disappeared on a Caribbean Island, she has not been found.

  503. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    Mike, your comments are spot on, in regards to the DNA. However, the cost is a factor. I would assume that they would get a court order to exhume the remains. Then if approved the cost to dig him up and take the necessary samples.

    The other thing is that they could have sent the remains to the FBI lab in Washington. Where they would be logged in to their evidence system. Then they would taken across the street to the Smithsonian Institute of Natural History. There a forensic anthropologist would do a sort of autopsy, and possibly make some determinations.

    I came across an excellent book from 1992, about this by one of their people who trsined6under the guy who established the Body Farm. They have been doing this since the1930,s.

    However, it goes back to the financial costs.

    • Steven says:

      Unless the Iowa State Medical Examiner took DNA at the autopsy, there is no way to identify this person. Per the funeral home, the body was cremated and the remains were returned to Decorah for burial. The county provided a lot for the ashes, the funeral home placed a temporary marker: “Unknown” for the name, and “XXX-1986”. The autopsy determined he had been dead about a year when he was discovered, but since he was discovered in 1986 they used that date.

  504. MikeD says:

    Almost 35 years since this man’s estimated date of death. I wonder if there is any DNA available from his remains that could be added to a genealogy database just to see if there are any hits.

    I’ve always wondered what evidence there was that indicated to investigators that he may have been traveling from Ohio to California. How could that hurt the investigation if their reason was made public? Winneshiek county is pretty far from any major interstates where one would have attempted to hitchhike from if they were traveling across the country. Between hay bales would have been a good place to hide or sort of have shelter during the cold. I wish there was an address or GPS coordinates of the area where he was found. I’m wonder how far way from a highway he was. There are only a handful of highways in that county. Looking at weather in that area in April of 1985 I can see there were a number of days where it would have been below freezing. He may have succumbed to the elements.

    • Steven says:

      The pole barn he was found in is still on the farm. It is less than 100 yards off the west side of the Locust Road (W38), approximately 13 miles north of Decorah. On a related note, while doing family research photography in the Freeport Cemetery just outside Decorah today, I came across his grave. It has no marker other than the place keeper provided by the funeral home.

      • MIkeD says:

        He was found between hay bales inside a barn? I just always assumed he was found between hay bales left outside. You commonly see hay bales lined up on properties or on the edge of fields. Again, it’s just so out of the way for anyone bumming or hitchhiking to across the country. There also doesn’t seem to be any rails really in the area. That kind of rules out the common situation where it was someone who was riding the rails and decided to get off in that area to get supplies. I think many years ago when Iowa had a dedicated page for the unidentified they have more pictures available for this man. I think he had an old-school shaving kit and maybe the matchbook was what gave them the Ohio clue.

        • Steven says:

          It was an open pole barn, not a traditional enclosed 4 sided barn. Think of a really large carport, with round bales instead of vehicles.

  505. anon says:

    This link is to a civil complaint (lawsuit pleadings) filed by her former husband.
    Fascinating read and gives some idea of who his cronies were and waht they were capable of. https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/iowa/iasdce/4:2006cv00574/32469/1

  506. Angela says:

    Kimberly is my cousin and her mother and the rest of the family think about her every day we have thought of and tried so me different theories of wat could have happened to her so if u people have any suggestions we r open to hear them

    • Bea says:

      Hello I saw ur post do u have anymore info about the disappearance and do u have any way to contact u

    • Jess says:

      I’ve read she was 13 and also 16, what age was she and is the family even sure she made it to Davenport, IA? Has the family contacted the greyhound company and got a list of cities it would have stopped at to compare Jane Does in those towns/cities? I’ve taken a bus ride from Davenport, IA to New Mexico and back and had 6 scheduled stops one way and 4 stops on my return, some up to a few hours long where we ventured the cities while we waited to board the next bus. Also a few unplanned breakdowns and bus exchanges along the way in the middle of nowhere. Some are saying they are not even sure she made it Davenport or even reached the state of Iowa. Was she dropped off at the station in Texas and physically seen boarding? In the 80’s these cases were handled so differently than in today’s world but I feel like her story is missing so much information for the public as a whole that would be beneficial. Absolutely no hard details and a few discrepancies I’ve came across! My deepest sympathies to her family and I hope for answers and healing! Any details rather than the short few would be great to help bring her home and possibly to rest!

      • Patrick Kerrigan says:

        Jess, thanks for your comments and questions. The lack of details bothers me. We have a couple cases that law enforcement don’t provide a lot of details.

        Yet, they ask the public for their help. How, can we help, if they don’t give us details. In some cases we know that a specific caliber firearm was used to murder someone. In other cases, it is not mentioned to protect the investigation.

        This is still the story even in unsolved Cases going back over 40 or more years. Also, we have Cases where the investigative files are missing, were destroyed. Here in the Chucago area, a high school student was murdered during a gas station robbery back in the early 1970’s. The original case file no longer exists, so whatever was done by the police or whatever evidence may have been recovered is gone.

      • JOHN P. LAIRD says:

        Has Kimberly ever been compared to to female body found in Blairstown, Warren County, NJ in August of 1982 known as “Princes Doe”. I have been saying this for years. Too many similarities to not investigate. Princes Doe’s composite drawing to Kimberly’s photos are very close. Dates of Kimberly being missing are not clear and how long she was with her father. What is the true date she was reported missing?

  507. Katelyn Baker says:

    I think its all bullshit if someone dies they died for a good reason. some people are lucky to die when they can to get out of the shitty place call life.

  508. Paul Anderson says:

    The police probably know to a certainty who committed the homicide of Tom Mathers but they don’t have the proof to take to the prosecutor they’re probably afraid it’ll get thrown out on a technicality or aquitted by a jury. The police like everyone else probably to a certainty don’t believe her story but like I said don’t have the proof and Hope they solve it someday.

  509. JP Miller says:

    I hope just commenting, here or anywhere, can trigger a new look. Stabbing sounds too personal to be just a robber. Mary was still a student. I think her husband was working at a UPS shipping center but part time. 24xx University is generally low cost housing for students. I don’t think I buy the robber hypothesis. I don’t think they had much to steal. What tool was used to cut the line? Why bother to cut it? Was it a line outside the house and the perpetrator wanted to prevent her from calling for help? Was the line inside the house and the perpetrator had some other purpose? If robbery was suspected were any things taken? If not was the perpetrator scared off? Then why take the time to cut the line? If something was taken what steps were taken to find or recover items? In a complex of so many duplexes was no one home who might have seen or heard someone or something? A lot of questions were asked about possible extra marital relationships on Mary’s part. Were those thoroughly explored? I heard the husband’s alibi checked out. But did he have some untoward relationship that led to a jealous girlfriend? If I can think up these kinds of questions can the police assure us they have chased down all the answers?

    If I saw the evidence I am sure I could think up a hundred more questions some of which may not be answered yet. I’d like to keep this going.

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      JP, I agree with your comments. I have come across cold cases, that were solved many years later, because fresh eyes came names of people who were never interviewed or something not followed up on. In the last couple of months, a recent newpaper aticle about the kidnapping of Teekah Lewis from a bowling alley in the State of Washington. A new detective came across two different witnesses, one who ran into the guy, who took Teekah, while.beading for the washroom. The.second saw the same a few nights later, when they recreated the situation, to.generate some leads.

      Two different witnesses both described a M/W, with a pock marked face. Also, there is description of the vehicle he used. It appears that some of this information may not have been released to the public to identify the kidnapper. Here, it is twenty some years later that the authorities dropped the ball.

  510. sue says:

    back then face book had a app to track friends . did he share this app with friends family ?

  511. Mallory Kay Schloss says:

    Hey. I’m Alice’s great-niece. This was my Grandmas best friend and the case was never closed. I believe she deserves some sort of justice. Whether if we can bury her or not. We got the day she went missing out on her headstone some amount of years ago. I want to see my grandmother have some type of closure over her sister. Who can help me??

  512. nelsonzon says:

    Please take notice of the following Facebook post. They look so similar.
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2221320608089754&id=1692354790986341&sfnsn=mo

    • Stay Strong, Fight for Justce says:

      There is a resemblance however Kimberly Doss was alive and last seen approximately two years (per info above) after the poor girl was found in Texas that you linked.

      Nice thought though (being sincere).

    • Patrick Kerrigan says:

      The Jane Doe, was found in 1980. Kimberly disappeared in September 1982. Thanks for your research. The problem I have is the lack of details on many of these cases. What do we know about her family situation.

    • Sadie Belle says:

      There are discrepancies with the date she actually disappeared. She is reported to have been missing as early as March 24, 1980, by family members. The 1980’s were a different time and missing children cases were handled far differently than they are today. Her mother lived in Texas at the time and her father in Davenport. I don’t think the Walker County Doe can be ruled out so easily. There is a possibility and without a DNA comparison to the family members to say one way or the other, it’s important she be considered

  513. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    The questions was weather the bonds were ever cashed. Also, who knew about the bonds? Maybe her ex-husband, his or her attorney. Maybe even family members. The other question is weather the Postal Inspectors were ever involved in her case. They could have provided extra help in the investigation. They have been involved in the disappearance of a mail carrier here in Chicago, along with the Chicago Police Department.

    • Mary says:

      The bonds were bearer bonds and were transferred two months after she was found none of the family was involved in her death including her ex

      • Patrick Kerrigan says:

        Mary, I noticed that the bonds were missing from a safety deposit box. So, there should have been records of who was authorized to enter the box at the bank. I would assume the bank, required whoever’s removed them would possess the keys and have to register in a logbook of sorts.

        Also, who knew about these bonds. It would be a motive for her murder. I would assume there were serial numbers. Also, where were they purchased.

  514. Bonnie Cleveland says:

    Please contact me. I am Dennis’s cousin. Betty and Harlon were my great Aunt and Uncle.

  515. tina M carroll says:

    The story about how Reed killed him, where did that come from? Why was Reed not convicted?

  516. Gay appelhans says:

    Thinking of you today sweet boy praying for justice

  517. Virginia Terrien says:

    Still missing you, always missing you.

  518. Karen says:

    Article said mental and physical disabilities. Specifically what were his disabilities. Would he have been capable of planning his own disappearance?

  519. Al Karalius says:

    This isn’t a cold case any longer. A year to two years after his disappearance, a farmer’s dog brought a bone home. The farmer thought it looked human and called the Winnebago county sheriff. The sheriff had the bone examined and it turned out to be human. The sheriff’s deputies followed the farmer’s dog, that lead them to a skeleton along part of the Winnebago River bank. Dental remains came back as the missing man Brian Blachut

  520. Jerris Davis Sr says:

    My mfn dawg aww man cuzzz this shit just made me cry man Rest Up 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  521. Jennifer marie Needham says:

    a lot of people think his wife had something to do with it. he had a pretty hefty insurance policy and right after he passed she was out getting her nails done im sorry but if someone just loses a spouse theyre supposed to love like they said they shouldnt have been out doing that they should have been greieving. and it was awful suspicious that she got remarried not too long after his death to the man she was seeing behind Kevin’s back. its so sad that his son was on the crew that answered the call to the river that day. i could not imagine the feelings or thoughts going thru his sons head when he realized it was his dad.RIP Kevin

    • Mike Pauzed says:

      Before you post you should know your facts !
      Yes it is a great loss .
      Never believe what you hear . As i know the family rather well and I believe if you know them you wouldn’t say things like this on social media.

    • Stay Strong says:

      The articles regarding her fraudulent criminal activity linked below certainly lends credence to your claim that widow Mary was morally compromised and may have been involved Jennifer.

    • Daniel Morse says:

      As his son, I can tell you not only are you so off base with your comments,you should be ashamed of yourself. Your insensitive, baseless comment that is only meant to take a cheap shot behind your little computer screen. Glad that when my children, who never got to meet there grandfather look this up some day they can see how horrible and nasty internet trolls are.

      • Renee Harmon says:

        Daniel,

        I am so sorry you lost your father and also sorry that years later you are exposed to reading about his passing and what other’s suspect happened. From an outsider’s perspective, it is always “interesting” to consider all the angles of a story, however, I think we often forget that there are many loved ones who are still impacted and feel the hurt of the loss. I wish you peace and love and hope your father’s case will be solved. From what I read, he sounds like an amazing man who was a positive light in this world. Take care.

  522. Gail Lewis says:

    I lived on the next street over she was always sun bathing and her little brother would play outside:/. I was very young about 10 years old:(

  523. Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

    GUILTY!!! – of premeditated murder in the first degree. Mandatory life in prison without the possibility of parole. Held without bond until formal sentencing in 6 weeks. He’ll never see the light of day again.

    Jury was out only 3-4 hours.

    • MikeD says:

      I’m happy her family finally has closure. His attack appears to have been random, or at least he had a type. With his mention of Jodi Huisentruit during questioning I think it would be worth it for Jodi’s investigators to look into Jerry Burns a little. Did he own a white van in 1995? Did his work ever take him to Mason City? Manchester where he lived is only a 2 hour drive to Mason City where Jodi was abducted. Jodi did work for KGAN prior to moving to Mason City and that station has Manchester in it’s viewing area. Just something to think about.

      • Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

        Agreed, definitely worth looking into. I think he mentioned her twice – initial interview and in the transport video but I may not be remembering that correctly.

        I too am very happy for her sister especially, the only of the immediate family left.

  524. Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

    At the risk of being totally obnoxious posting about this trial; the prosecution rested this morning. The defense offered the customary request to acquit / dismiss the case based on the prosecution did not prove their case. The judge of course denied that request.

    The prosecution has done a masterful job of establishing the type of person Michelle was, the integrity of the chain of evidence custody, the pathology of the fatal wounds, the DNA content/process/integrity/results, and the integrity of the arrest and suspicious comments & behavior of Jerry Burns during questioning/arrest/transport to the jail/jail cell activity.

    1 in 100 billion (22.7 times the world population in 1979, the time of the crime) were the DNA results matching Jerry Burns to blood on Michelle’s dress.

    He’s toast.

    • MikeD says:

      I understand the defense’s strategy, but I don’t like it. They have focused on evidence potentially being damaged during the flood of 2008, even though the the DNA was tested and profiled multiple times prior to the flood. Also they have focused on the idea of secondary DNA transfer as being something that can happen. They leave out the parts that point out that secondary DNA transfer is usually from someone else at the scene or by an investigator. It’s not likely that some random guy from Manchester Iowa, with a clean record, is going to have this DNA available in labs or the evidence storage room in order to contaminate not one, but two separate pieces of evidence. Jerry Burns wasn’t one of the investigators. Side note: It’s even more obvious now why the defense didn’t want Jerry’s search engine history as evidence. For those who don’t know, the computer from Jerry’s office had searches for internet porn showing blonde women sexually assaulted and killed. It’s as if he had an itch to scratch right? That being said, I understand why it wasn’t allowed as evidence because apparently on occasion other employees would use his office computer. There was no 100% proof it was him doing the searches even though it connects the dots really well. Anyway, blood DNA on the gear shift and DNA on the dress that matches Jerry Burns. I hope this jury is smart.

      • Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

        I presume Prosecutor Maybanks (who coincidentally went to the same high school as me) will cut through the irrelevant noise that the defense has raised in his closing arguments tomorrow.

        I’m optimistic the jury will do the right thing.

  525. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    I would think that someone would have followed up on his comments. However, maybe someone they thought he was trying to bargain for a lower sentence. But, the reference to the theft of M-16 rifles from the Rock Island Arsenal, would be jumped on by the FBI, since it is a federal property. So, they would have ran with that and possibly solved some other crimes.

  526. Robin Henderson says:

    Hopefully Jerry will get at least life without parole and he will decide he has nothing more to lose and spill his guts to someone!

  527. Margaret says:

    Shortly after Brian disappeared Jerry poured a new concrete slab on his farm. Hmm… coincidence…? Now that we know the truth about Jerry I sure hope they look there.

  528. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    In regards to the comments that a possible lead to the family was ignored. Well, all leads need to passed along to law enforcement. They then have to investigate and determine whether it amounts to anything useful.

    There are many cases where law enforcement get hundreds of bits and pieces of information. They all have to be investigated and determined whether its useful or not. Because what happens if they make an arrest and get to court. A good defense attorney, will look at the case files and ask them if they followed up this lead or that lead.

    I used to like watching the Perry Mason programs, because he had his own investigator and would have him out there investigating, versus trying to destroy the prosecutions case, by questioning their investigation. I however used to feel sorry for Hamilton Burger, for the several cases he thought were slam dunks.

  529. keith L. Whitlatch says:

    THis case was solved, but the jury found the killer not guilty.

    • Jody Ewing says:

      Keith, thanks so much for your comment. Though it was noted on Sandra Jo’s page that the case was solved, I’ve added the details about Dean Ray Tumey’s acquittal on this page as well as the Cedar County page.

      In instances where cases had been cold for some time before being solved, I keep the case information on the website because readers (as well as researchers) are often interested in how they eventually came to be solved.

      Thank you for your service in law enforcement!

  530. Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

    For those unaware; the trial of Jerry Burns, as the accused in the viscous assault and murder of Michelle Martinko, began with judge, attorneys, and court administration calibration on Mon 2.10.20, jury selection on Tue 2.11.20, and opening remarks and testimony occurring on Wed 2.12.20.

    Testimony began with friends and acquaintances who saw Michelle that night who saw her at a HS school banquet at Sheraton Hotel & Westdale Mall (in close proximity of each other) in Cedar Rapids. Testimony involved establishing Michelle’s high quality character as a person and timeline of her movements that night – especially when she left the mall and later would have met ultimately her demise.

    The second day of testimony established the investigation and evidence collection process & procedures involving accounts from the investigating officers and detectives from the Cedar Rapids Police Department as well as the autopsy results.

    The third day of testimony involved the integrity of the chain of custody and explanation of the DNA processes and findings in this case – including the 1 in 100 billion (there were about 4.4 billion people on the entire planet of earth in 1979, the year of the offense) unique DNA identification of the accused, Jerry Burns.

    Testimony resumes on Mon 2.18.20.

    • MikeD says:

      It’s been interesting to see the defense start to try to push the idea that maybe the evidence had been contaminated with Jerry Burns DNA sometime since 1979, even though there doesn’t seem to have been any mishandling of the evidence. No evidence of mishandling so far, and no evidence of any situation where Jerry Burns’s blood would have been in a position to contaminate specific pieces of evidence like the gear shift.

      • Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

        Indeed it has. It’s about the defense’s only play – argue contamination of the DNA evidence as the prosecutors have & will further establish that the DNA is definitively Jerry Burns. They scored a couple of minor points but nothing material from what i can tell.

        To your point, the prosecution has done a great job linking the integrity of the chain of custody for the dress and gear shift selector from collection to check in / out of the CRPD secured evidence room to hand off / receipt from the DCI lab for analysis and back to the CRPD.

        I really thought the two DCI analysts in particular – Mike Peterson & Linda Sawer were very effective in explaining the DNA content, processes & findings in layman’s terms that the jury can understand.

        • MikeD says:

          Linda Sawer in particular did amazingly well. One interesting observation I noticed is that on Day 2 the defense made it a point to get Dr Richard Fiester to mention that the vaginal swabs taken during the autopsy had no signs of sperm or seminal fluid. Then on Day 3 Linda Sawer mentioned there was microscopic amounts of sperm and seminal fluid present on Michelle’s panties, but not enough for analysis unfortunately. I’ve always had the theory that it was sexually motivated, but location, time, and the way the situation played out may have spooked the murder. Many men precum / “get wet” in excitement so maybe its possible that he exposed her panties and stopped. If not, I guess its possible she was wearing those panties previously for some sort of sexual encounter and they weren’t 100% clean? I guess it’s really only relevant if there was enough to do DNA analysis on. You said “Testimony resumes on Mon 2.18.20” but Monday is the 17th. Do they resume on Tuesday?

          • Stay Strong, Keep Fighting For Justice! says:

            Sorry I just picked this up. I typed the date incorrectly. The trial resumed on Mon 2.17.20 at 9:00am. Apologies for the confusion.

            Linda Sawer was indeed awesome. I could see where your theory regarding the sperm is possible.

            I’ve always had an interest in this case in particular as I grew up on the SW side of Cedar Rapids near Westdale Mall & the Sheraton Hotel. Been to both places many times – in particular the Westdale Mall.

            Anybody can watch the trial on Law and Crime network stream either live or archived via You Tube incidentally,

  531. Frances allsup says:

    I won’t ever belive he was alone.i don’t be live everything from DCI HAS BEEN TOLD.TINA WAS MY FRIEND&LIKE A DAUGHTER TO ME.SHE LIVED BEHIND MY HOUSE ON SOUTH WARD ST.SHE LOVED MY 2 KIDS BETTY&MIKE SHEPHERD JR.AND SHED HELPED ANYONE

  532. Frances allsup says:

    Link lade&hook murders in ottumwa ia

  533. Patrick Kerrigan says:

    It would be nice to run the fingerprints through the FBI system today. They have added a number of fingerprints to the system over a number of years. However, with are luck the offender is most likely deceased. But, we never know.

  534. Lisa Smith says:

    Where did this man reside in Davenport Iowa? Any way somebody could find out?

  535. Gramma says:

    I don’t remember how long Dave’s fooze and booze was open but it didn’t seem that long. I heard a girl named robon Keeney used to work there. She might be an interesting person for the family to talk to if only to ask what she was hearing at the time

  536. Phil says:

    This literally breaks my heart! who takes the life of a Mother! Come on,please somebody knows something! Realize that if it were you, you would want closure and peace! please help out Autumn and her family. Connie deserves justice and didnt deserve this!!!

    • Autumn says:

      Thank you Phil it is much appreciated. People say it will get easier but honestly it doesnt. All the questions keep running through my head like a movie… I wish she was he