78 Responses to Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins

  1. Emmeline says:

    I highly doubt the girls’ murders are related to drugs, or that the murder were perpetrated by drug-traffickers, or a gang of any kind. Even though Dan Morrissey was involved with meth, my guess would be that if the murders were related to drugs, we would absolutely know. For example, a rival meth dealer, or maybe an angry supplier, would leave clues, or a type of message that confirmed his or her involvement in the crime. Murders and crimes like such are committed for punishment, and the person being punished must be made aware of this fact.
    While stranger abductions are exceedingly rare, I also doubt that this crime was committed by someone very familiar to the girls. It might be a stranger, or a distant acquaintance, maybe someone the girls had casually seen once, but I doubt it was anyone very close to the girls or their family.
    Because the girls were presumably kidnapped in a fairly quiet, isolated area (the lake), I believe they were probably seen either in town, and followed to the abduction site, or someone at the lake happened to see them. This seems to be a chance encounter with an opportunistic predator, or someone who will acknowledge an opportunity that presents them with the chance to abuse a child.
    The children were moved from the abduction site and their bodies were dumped in a more remote area 25 miles away, so, like the police said, the abductor most likely lives in and knows the area. Moreover, if committed by someone close to Elizabeth and Lyric, their bodies would most likely have been left at the lake, or they would have been moved to a closer, more public area.
    I don’t believe these girls were killed by a juvenile offender or first-time offender, as the perpetrator took two victims at once, which is very risky. An unexperienced or young offender would most likely not take that risk. On the other hand, there might be more than one perpetrator. Most likely a team of two, but sexual predators, especially child sex offenders, tend to commit crimes alone.
    My guess is that Elizabeth and Lyric were taken by a stranger who happened to see them riding their bikes, without anyone else around, and decided to kidnap them. He (more than likely a he), then drove to a remote, fairly distant area to dispose of the bodies. My guess is that he never believed the remains would be found.

  2. I really hope they find the sick person behind this.

  3. Mark Becker says:

    Mexican drug gang…

  4. Cat Vogel says:

    I thought they were looking at that guy from Northwood IA for this. He is now deceased, but he had a habit of abducting two girls at a time for his perversions. He was still alive when these two girls were taken.

  5. rip little angel my heart aches that the world is so cruel to take you and your cousin

  6. This is very sad and heart breaking. I pray someone comes forward.

  7. I’m a 56 year old woman and have been following this case for some time. I myself have been sexually abused as a child. I’m sorry no child is safe. I remember my relatives spouses n friends on both sides of the family taking advantage of me at a very, very early adge. (No) one should b trusted or ruled out. Sorry for your loss. I will keep up on this until he, she or they get caught

  8. Mystery addict says:

    Please add the courier and kewl stories about the chief of police Kent smock being corrupt and being fired, then disappeared. Why was he fired…. for behaviors consistent with stalking. For misappropriation of law enforcement resources. I believe with all of my heart one of two theories as fact.
    The evansdale city or other law enforcement / first responder took them. Nothing adds up about thier stories and the behavior or the police department was either shady as a whole and Kent figured it out…. or…. Kent did it.
    While we were sitting on the lawn waiting for instructions on the search parties. …. he refused to let us go out at night and threatened to arrest anyone who did. Then another cop…. a rookie no longer on duty…. tried to deescalate the crowd by reassuring us that Kent smock was the man for the job! He had all kinds of experience with sex trafficking crimes…. computer crimes. Which sounds good in theory except for a few missing facts.
    – he hadn’t been on the job for more then a couple weeks, recently retiring from the jail as a deputy.
    – the police chief he replaced remains on duty but, stepped down from chief or even assistant chief to be a regular patrol officer. The police chief prior to Randy Weber was also fired under similar circumstances over a technical paper trail where he was cleared of all wrong doing, but, all the cops got together and fired him too. Prior to that it had been since before 1970 that a chief of police had been let go in evansdale.
    – shortly after this full time officer quits to go work for railroad. Sounds simple enough… but his families are also tied into the local drug trade.
    – the fbi and dci camped at the evansdale pd for months or years after this and were present during this time that Kent was fired.

    Motives…. could be anything. Fame. Notoriety. Mystery. But most likely drug money and prison time. But hey no one is a criminal until they get caught right….

  9. jerry carlberg says:

    Who has left the area,???about that time…

  10. Daniel King says:

    It is uncommon for stranger abductions to happen. I have a feeling that these 2 girls… knew their murderer.

  11. prolly a family member..they kill us to keep control of fear in the rest of us

    • Frita says:

      What is “prolly”????? Do you have an idea how ignorant you sound. The word is “probably” as in you probably did not make it past eigth grade.

      • Your ignorant fir calling someone that. Maybe illustrate. But tried to communicate. Good job Prolly

        • Jody Ewing says:

          This from ICC admin Jody Ewing: While we appreciate all comments and hope to foster discussion about this unsolved case (which includes both girls), I see no point in someone attacking another person’s spelling or grammar. Frita, even while criticizing someone’s use of the word “prolly,” your own comment contained three grammatical errors. Just to show you how ridiculous and insulting comments like this come across to others: 1) In your first sentence, the ending quotation mark should have been “outside” the five question marks. (i.e. What is “prolly?????”) 2) ‘Do you have an idea how ignorant you sound’ should have ended with a question mark, not a period, and it should have been “any” idea, not “an” idea. 3) In reference to your insults about the commenter’s lack of education, I believe you meant to say “eighth” grade rather than eigth grade.

          No one is ever 100% perfect with grammar and punctuation, but this site isn’t about grammar or punctuation; it’s about unsolved murders and missing persons cases. I would no more attack someone for writing FWIW (instead of For what it’s worth) than I would someone using the word “prolly” instead of “probably.”

          Did the writer clearly convey what he/she meant as it related to this cold case? Absolutely. They did so without attacking anyone else in the process.

          * The next time you want to attack A) their; B) they’re; C) there grammatical or spelling errors, you might want to first check your own and remember why this website exists.

          * Answer: A) their

          • Amber L says:

            I love this! Thank you! I can not stand when people down others for errors. I can read anything in the English Lang but do not ask me to spell or put it in correct grammar!

          • Drew Collins says:

            Don’t attack somebody for there grammar but it’s ok to attack the family of the girls

  12. Rip sweet angels…this is so sad. I remember this :’-(

  13. Megan Ashley says:

    I remember that was all over the local news for a long while

  14. Diana Wilson says:

    I don’t know how people can get away with murder.

    • John Parker says:

      No witnessnes, no evidence, nobody speaking up. It’s sad. How can someone live with themselves day to day?

    • Some people don’t have a conscious

      • Frita says:

        Everyone has a concious unless they are in a comma. Not everyone has a conscience

        • Tim says:

          I see that you have been correcting people’s grammar but don’t you mean coma instead of comma? There is other things to worry about especially finding the killer of these two girls and your acting like a grammar nazi. Get a life

    • Hopefully with time theyll fess up if they dont get busted first. Its happended before one guy fessed up after about 40 years turned himself in.

      • kathy says:

        Likely he did this to deflect suspicion on the other one involved. Jim Newton the Detective working that case then showed me the pictures that could not be used in evidence. There were two sets of footprints from Huntbachs rental to their house next door. It snowed and the perps walked over the new snow. The houses were next door. The police were so freaked out that they actuially stood on the prints and smoked before the detectives got there.

  15. There is more out there! They just aren’t releasing it! Not sure why? Maybe they want everyone involved?

  16. Jodi Frye says:

    Parents drug dealers did it. Keep investigating them!

    • I’m glad I’m not the only one with that theory! Poor girls :(

    • Which Parents,, both sides have their share!!!!!

      • Drew Collins says:

        Shame on you bitch if I ever see you in public I will punch you in the face like you were a dude . Better believe it .you are a nasty person and have no class someday our paths will cross and I can’t wait you are a troll.drew Collins father of Elizabeth June Marie

        • Marianne Good says:

          Wow Drew,are you really threatening me on a public forum? Let me ask you this..Did you or Heather actually take a polygraph and pass? Misty and Dan did,and passed! And considering your past,maybe you can’t pass one.

    • Jodi Frye says:

      I would imagine same dealers?

      • Drew Collins says:

        Jodi I don’t have any drug dealers so I would appriciate if you might not talk about me like you know me . I have a clean record and have never been in trouble with the police since I was a young man I’m 45 years old and am not a druggy I own my own business and am home with my childeren every night . So please don’t act like you know anything about me . It makes me sick how people want to judge my family and they don’t know anything about my family . I am not dan or misty I am my own person I have nothing to do with meth or people who do . It must be nice living in judgement of others why don’t you look at yourself .karma is a bitch I’d watch out someday something tragic could happen to you and maybe while your going threw hell some asshole will talk shit about you online . Shame on you

    • I agree that the one set of parents owned money to a drug dealer and they weren’t paying so maybe they took the one and they couldn’t leave a witness so they took her to. Just saying I hope they arrest someone for these little girls to finally be in peace

    • Or those girls saw something they shouldn’t have.

    • Jodi Frye says:

      I just dnt knw. How did someone get two girls into a vehicle off a bike trail with no one seeing the struggle? Thats why i think the drug dealers have something to do with it. Those girls probably saw them in the house and was never told they are ‘bad people’. So one of them says ‘hey ur mom/dads in trouble come w us’ & they did. Thats my theory. Otherwise i dnt understand how no one saw two girls fighting adult/s trying to get them in a car. RIP angels I hope ur justice is one day found!

  17. Somebody knows something but they are keeping very quiet! These girls deserve justice!!!

  18. So sad. I really wish the woman of cold justice would look into this

  19. Pat Mcnamara says:

    Somebody in Evansdale knows something.

  20. I remember that, very sad.

  21. Logan Nelson says:

    1982 September 5th… Jonny Gosch was reported missing after he "disappeared" while delivering mail. This happened in Des Moines but just hang in there. He's wagon of mail was found a block away from his house. He was reportley being followed by a blue car.. The case remained could until 1977 when he allegedly visited his mother, she claimed her son told her that he had escaped from a child abuse ring by prominent Iowa businessmen and politicians .. This may be the same people yet I don't know why the would kill them but this could be a lead idk

  22. I’ve been thinking of them often latley as summer is now here and how heartbreaking it is that their family still does not have any more answers and that justice has not been brought.

  23. Bette Luck says:

    I am sad, so sad for these families. I hope and pray for information leading to an arrest. SOMEONE know a piece of information that would help break this case. Do it for those girls.

  24. Three years already. Does not seem like it.

  25. Heartbreaking..i hope they find.out who did this to them .

  26. Diana Wilson says:

    I like the updates. I’m surprised someone hasn’t let it slipped as to who did this. No closer for the family. So sad.

  27. Maybe call in a physic. Praying for justice.

  28. I pray for justice, for this little Angel. And for her family.

  29. This happened not far from where I grew up. I can’t believe something so heinous took place in a small town. This beautiful girls deserve justice. Somebody knows something. I hope they do the right thing.

  30. Now I’ve recently heard of a guy in Webster Co. that was trying to snatch children. I wonder if it’s the same guy.

  31. steve says:

    I would bet anything it had to do with the drugs n ratting ppl out….makes me sick to my stomach because I was down by the lake twice that day within that time frame..

  32. Anonymous says:

    Has anyone looked into the Oelwein mayor? He was just arrested for child sexual abuse and the victims were similar ages. I know Oelwein is 30+ miles away but you drive near that area when you go towards Oelwein.

  33. There is someone out there, other than the person(s) who committed this crime, that knows the identity – hoping someone gets a conscious and reveals who it is.

  34. I pray for someone to comes forward. My heart goes out to the family.

  35. I was following this case and was SO hoping they’d be found and that’s they’d be okay. I was so upset when they were found. May these little girls rest in peace

  36. I remember this very sad just wish they found out who did it… And may those girls rest in peace :(

  37. But there were hopes that this case could have been solved if the man responsible for that kidnapping was also responsible for this kidnapping. He’s now been ruled out. :-/

  38. Jordi Faber that is a totally different kidnapping unfortunately. That was a 15 year old girl Kathlynn Shepard and her 12 year old friend from another small town in Iowa.

  39. I pray they find who did this. Prayers to the family and friends. My thoughts are with all of you. God bless ! Very sad and heart breaking.

  40. I was shocked when I heard the girls were missing and followed the case on websleuths. I was hoping that they would be found alive. The little girls were around the same age as my son. I cant imagine what their families have gone through with thier disappearance and deaths.

  41. In memory of Lyric & Elizabeth!! <3

  42. Kris Starks says:

    This case was just a mess! Seems it was all botched or something from the get go. Someone out there knows something…you can bet on it.

  43. Don says:

    I think Klunder is probably the perpetrator of this crime. He seemed perfectly comfortable taking two victims at a time. Unfortunately,he took the cowards way out so as not to answer for the evil he did.

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